Biden was emerging from his Delaware campaign headquarters when the car ploughed into an SUV guarding his motorcade

President Joe Biden and First Lady Jill Biden were rushed to safety by the Secret Service after a car suddenly ploughed into a parked SUV that was guarding the presidential motorcade.

Mr Biden was walking out of his campaign headquarters in Wilmington, Delaware, on Sunday night to his waiting armoured SUV when a silver copper sedan hit a US Secret Service vehicle that was closing off intersections for the president’s departure.

The sedan, which carried a Delaware licence plate, then tried to continue into a closed-off intersection, before Secret Service personnel surrounded the vehicle with their weapons drawn and instructed the driver to put his hands up.

Mr Biden was captured looking stunned and froze when he heard the loud bang close by.

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    For people arguing Biden isn’t too old to be president…

    This points out he’s not spending the next two years just being president, he’s running for president at the same time.

    It’s a shit ton to expect out of someone in their mid 80s.

    We’d be better off if he stepped aside and focused on one job he’s 20 years too old for instead of fumbling one for two years and now adding another.

    At least one of the two will fall behind, maybe both

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      Biden is 81, not young but also not mid-80s. Trump is three years younger than him. Why is Biden’s age a problem but not Trump’s?

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        I’m trying to figure out how an election less than a year away means he’ll be spending the next 2 years running for president

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        Fascist propaganda doesn’t work when you attack the senile leader of your cult’s mental acuity. I mean, just remember how good his memory is: person woman man camera tv!

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        Queen Elizabeth II was 96 when she died. Age has no meaning, the individual does. If they are mentally able to act as President then that is all that matters.

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          I wouldn’t really use her as an example, because she didn’t really have much of a real job that took mental acuity.

          Now Mahmoud Abbas has led the Palestinian Authority through nearly impossible conditions and he’s 88. That’s a better example IMO.

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            The Monarch of England still has a large role in the Government of the United Kingdom, but less of a role than the President of the United States. Still, at 95 she was fully operating and on her game.

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        What?

        They both are.

        Climate change is a problem too, I didn’t list every issue that’s threatening our country

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          You’re right. You didn’t list every issue. You just stated what was wrong with one of the two men who are viable candidates and didn’t even hint that the other would have the exact same issue. Seems a little bit one-sided.

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            Or maybe I’m commenting in a place with effectively zero trump supporters so there’s context?

            Seriously, this isn’t reddit. Since exploding heads got defederated, I legitimately can’t remember the last time I saw a pro trump comment on Lemmy.

            There’s a shit ton of warning signs that Biden might not be able to beat trump again. And by his own admission he’s not the only one he thinks can beat trump. Like a week ago he said at least 50 others can.

            He won’t even say he has the best shot, but he has said the only reason he’s running is because Trump is

            Shit like that doesn’t help his chances. But him and his team don’t realize that

            Getting mad at people for pointing that out is like burning a woman for being a witch because she recognized an illness that will kill someone or that a bad harvest is coming.

            Knowing something bad is likely to happen, doesn’t mean I want it to. I’m just fucking trying to warn people.

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              Suggesting you are being one-sided is not getting mad at you, and there are still Trump supporters on Lemmy.

              And I still say that I don’t see how Biden’s age is a problem but Trump’s age isn’t. Because if those are the only two who have a chance and they are almost the same age, I don’t see why age is a factor.

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                And I still say that I don’t see how Biden’s age is a problem but Trump’s age isn’t

                Great, I don’t understand why you’d still be saying that after I clarified both of their ages are a problem…

                Because if those are the only two who have a chance

                Biden is the only dem.that has a chance… Because the party leadership unilaterally decided we don’t get a primary.

                That is the issue,

                and they are almost the same age, I don’t see why age is a factor.

                It’s an issue for both of them.

                It seems like instead of admitting that, you’re thinking it somehow cancels each other out…

                Which makes no sense. And I don’t see how any more exchanges is going to be remotely productive if that’s your line of logic.

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                  If it’s an issue for both of them, it’s an issue for neither of them. Because they’re the only two who have a chance of being elected. Your clarification didn’t clarify why it is a factor if it both candidates have the same issue.

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      My god… this argument again.
      Everyone is sooooo concerned about Biden’s age, but not Trumps. It’s bizarrely unbalanced.

      Fine dude. Convince him to step aside. I’ll vote against Trump no matter who the Democratic Party fields. Can you say the same?

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        Bernie, if he chose to run, which it seems he’s firmly decided not to. But, if he did, he would (imo of course) probably defeat Biden in the primary, and then completely obliterate the general.

        The drive to find a viable “outsider” is stronger than ever, and Bernie has that, while also having a pretty firm lock on the moral high ground to shell Trump from. Biden has unfortunately lost that edge, due to his staunch support for Israel, which many of us consider to be the incorrect position in the modern day and are trying hard to pressure him away from.

        I don’t think Bernie wants to, though. I think he’s okay supporting Biden, all things considered, and is also getting rather old himself. He blazed the trail that other progressives will have to follow to keep that torch aloft, and someday carry it into the presidency.

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          Sanders is older than Biden, so if we’re arguing that Biden is too old to be president, Sanders is definitely too old to be president. I don’t know whether he has a better chance of beating Trump or not, but on the subject of age, which is what was just brought up, Biden is a year younger than Sanders.

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            Yes, I am aware. I was focusing on Sanders’ advantages as opposed to his disadvantages. I think the advantages would strongly outweigh the disadvantages, despite the disadvantages existing.

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          I like bernie and supported him but I held my nose and voted hilary all the same. I really don’t see him running at this point.

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          Bernie would lose a great number of center votes. The guy was praising Chavez and Venezuela not that long ago. It is easy for him to suggest all these programs when he knows there is no way to pay for it.

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                Your biology will continue to change too, son, we’re not done growing at 18. Or even 25. Your experience will also increase as you meet more and more people, and the importance of compromise as a virtue, not a vice, will very likely become more apparent.

                Especially if you ever have to parent a teen. That’s a really fun one.

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          Ah yes, famed politician Marianne Williamson, who has previously talked about defeating Trump’s “dark psychic force”.

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          Marianne Williamson is a woo-woo peddler who is in no way, shape, or form suited to be elected to dog catcher, let alone president and Dean Phillips is Representative (no Representative has ever been elected president) who is such a shitty politician that he under-performed Biden as an incumbent in his own district in 2020.

          These are not serious answers.

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            Being a Representative is not any criteria for dismissing the validity of a candidate. You could use the same logic to dismiss a female candidate, a Pacific Islander, and more.

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        Have you seen the polls?

        Biden isn’t the best chance against trump.

        trump is the best chance politicians like Hillary and Biden had/have at becoming president

        We’re 1/2, and polling for round three is a lot worse than last time.

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            Kamala Harris.

            But it’s weird you think Biden is wrong and he’s the only one that can beat trump.

            And expect me to defend Biden’s statement.

            Is this one of those times moderates tell someone they should know better than listening to a moderate politician?

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              She’s not popular enough by far. She kinda fell off once Biden was elected and hasn’t had much of the spotlight. That’s a problem with name recognition with voters. Also, what’s she accomplished that most people would know of?

              The issue is incumbency bias: winners are perceived to be able to win again. That and she’s VP. If anything happens to Biden, she becomes president. For that reason alone she’s a terrible candidate for a democratic primary. Biden would then need a new VP candidate for the election which would be further scrutinized.

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                yeah. im worried she will be running for 2028 and lose. its sad but her best bet is biden dies in office.

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                Well, maybe you should go ask Biden for his list of 50 other Dems…

                Then tell him he’s wrong and doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but also he’s the only one that can win despite polls showing he’s not even that well off against trump.

                I’m over the cognizant dissonance his supporters keep insisting on. No idea why people think the correct response to Republican bullshit is doing the same thing as them

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                  Lol. You have no answers and the feeble ones you’ve tried are easily debunked. You’re not trying to get a better candidate you’re trying to sow dissatisfaction.

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                    Ah yes…

                    Recognizing an issue is the same as causing it to some people.

                    I thought that ended with the Salem witch trials, yet here we are.

                    It’s snowing here now, just like the weather person said it would. Should I call him up and demand he shovel my driveway? He saw this coming, so clearly he caused it by acknowledging it. If he’d have just pretended it was going to be 70 degrees it would be a nice day out