We also export a hell of a lot of soybeans, so when retaliatory tariffs kick in I guess our new ultra-masculine conservative government is going to have us all eating lots and lots of soy.

No, a voter is some who voted.

To you, nonvoter includes people who voted. You’re just a version of chatGPT with no conscious awareness prior to the year 2024.

If someone votes in 2020, then tries to off a candidate in 2024 and dies before they can vote in 2024, absolutely they are a voter.

Your argument is that someone who is politically active up until their death and doesn’t pull a Jesus to vote after death is a nonvoter?

My argument is that voting makes you a voter, including the 2020 general election and midterms.

Why are you biting the bullet in such a silly situation. They were politically active, besides voting also making donations to political parties. People who are invested in the political process do more.

Which part of that is relevant to the conversation so far?

To make one criticism of one event isn’t to say that “China bad”. That’s really black and white thinking, and comes off incredibly insecure.

Not dodging any cult accusations when you would rather take the conversation in a dozen different directions than just admit, “yeah, killing a couple hundred civilians is a massacre”.

Hey the 2024 general election was not the first and only vote to ever exist.

Two people took shots at the president before the election, they were both registered voters.

Voters taking shots: 2

Nonvoters taking shots: 0

So tell me what you personally know your 90 million nonvoters are doing.

I wouldn’t be surprised if a bunch of real videos exist, in which case it would be really easy to condemn them as gross evil western propaganda. It’s easy to condemn Zionist propoganda as gross and evil.

You know, because I’m not in a weird cult that makes me defend mass murder of civilians.

That’s like asking to prove that God doesn’t exist, because nothing has changed or happened that suggests they are doing something.

And if that’s the way you want to play, you must be able to personally confirm that 200 million voters are complacent after voting. Because surely you aren’t a hypocrite who expects me to account for every single individual unless you’re already doing that for yourself.

You’re not listening: the people who aren’t voting are still not taking matters into their own hands either.

Yes the US has committed numerous atrocious, massacres, and genocides.

You know what I wouldn’t do? Make a YouTube video playing defense for the US government saying that any of those aren’t exactly what they are.

The people who aren’t voting are even more complacent, prove me wrong.

If the voted government was not legitimate than voting is not a process that legitimizes the rule then is it?

Voting is just one tool of many to try to improve life for as many people as possible.

I don’t know how viable that actually is, a decade of Trump flags and Trump shirts and Trump merchandise, and decades of Trump branding everywhere before that. The Trump cult is in too deep.

The GOP winners will probably be the ones that poach the Trump brand as “we are Trump’s chosen ones to carry out Trump’s vision for America”, until his cultural significance wanes.

His proof that there wasn’t a massacre is that the death toll reported by the mayor is only on the same order of magnitude as the Tulsa Race Massacre?

For someone so adamant on criticizing propaganda the call is really coming from inside the house.

You’re the random dude on lemmy who claims to “know people” vs the random dude on lemmy who cites his sources.

Israel and Netanyahu preferred Trump by a wide margin over Kalama, so unless you’re a Zionist I wouldn’t recommend celebrating yet.

The fascists have done an incredible job lulling people into a false sense of security with “Trump just says outrageous things to trigger the libs he’ll never actually do anything”.

Dictators love the poorly educated.

Fuzzy memories after 4 years of anti-Democrat propoganda, remember overwhelmingly Americans use social media that backs Trump (X, Meta, TikTok), to the point that even US “leftists” were all in anti-“blue MAGA”.

It’s classic manufactured consent. That’s why FAFO was trending after election. Americans don’t know what they voted for. They are about to find out - the hard way.

I would argue that the supermajority weren’t fine with this result, these real life consequences, but were under a collective cope/delusion that “Killer Kamala” was a “weak woman” but also a warhawk who just wanted to genocide lots of people in Gaza and prolong the war in Ukraine, and Trump was going to bring peace and prosperity and lower the cost of living.

Americans are mostly stupid, poorly educated, gullible, and easily deceived by low effort promises.