That’s all.
EDIT: Thank you all for detailing your experience with, and hatred for, this miserable product. Your display of solidarity is inspiring. Now, say it with me:
Fuck Microsoft
Yes. Typical MS corporate BS. Take “inspiration” from slack and zoom, make it great to steal the market, then make it worse and more expensive every once and a while.
I don’t mind teams for chatting or meetings but I hate sharepoint and the Teams file “structure” with a passion.
haha file structure - it’s going the Apple way of just chuck it in and then search for what you want rather than being a grown-up and keeping things organised and tidy
If the search function actually worked it could be passable.
That’s all.
There’s more: microsoft outlook is garbage
The new outlook has exceeded “garbage” and gone all the way to dumpster fire. It sometimes takes upwards of 15, 30 seconds to open an email. The new auto formatting is a hindrance to be overcome by tricking it to act how you want. Trying to schedule an event across timezones shits the bed half the time, resulting in improper meeting times being sent out. Absolute failure.
My CISO has all but said he’s going to prevent any auto-rollout of that shit because it breaks decades of user training and TRUNCATES THE FRONT OF THE URL, NOT THE BACK LIKE ANY SENSIBLE APPLICATION.
Like, let’s make it so Steve in accounting can’t see that the login link he wants to click is actually haxxor.com instead of bank.com, makes perfect fucking sense.
Wait, really? I’ve found the new outlook opens emails faster than the old one, especially the HTML-heavy ones that my work loves to send me.
The refactor to the rules UI is really nice too, the old one was so crusty. Can’t comment on the timezone issue though.
I’ve been told the extended time to open is related to how big the outlook database is, I average 200 emails received a day with various alerts and notifications from internal tools and it cripples new outlook in about a week if I’m not diligent with keeping folders cleaned out/emails deleted. This volume wasn’t a issue before I switched.
Ah so your issue is, let me see here… Ah, actually using Outlook like a normal user.
I’ve tried switching to Thunderbird myself but it doesn’t support Office 365 without a third party service. So I feel stuck with Outlook.
If I’m being honest the only Microsoft product I actually like is Excel.
They’re doing their best to “improve” excel too… I can’t understand how their AI generated cell fill is worse than the old approach.
I’ll die on the hill that classic outlook is far better than Gmail and similar web interfaces for email especially if you have long threads or lots of emails.
Also somehow Google’s email search sucks so bad compared to searching in outlook.
I agree. The old Outlook was snappy and dense of information. The new Outlook is just a fucking web page.
Microsoft Teams isn’t all bad! For example, it bogged down my work computer so much at start up that I would basically get an extra break.
It temporarily deletes my meetings just before they happen, so that I don’t have to attend them!
Of course, when I open it later, the meetings are restored, with the original date, and no trace of the deletion. So not attending them is quite hard to explain to others. But it does save me from attending!
Take a print
The one problem with that is that I need to know I’m not being told about a meeting to take a print.
The the screen recording always on lol
Oh, nice, Windows 11 will fix Teams!
Too fuckin right m8
As if there’s a single lead developer behind MS Teams. There’s probably like 100+ devs working on it in a dozen teams or more.
Do you think the Microsoft Teams team uses Microsoft Teams in their teams to develop Microsoft Teams?
Probably, dogfooding is common.
I heard even the dev team behind MS SourceSafe didn’t use SourceSafe. I don’t blame them.
I’m so tired of web engine based apps
Decades of speed increases in hardware, yet software is slower than ever because we’re wasting it on JavaScript.
Yup
So does discord
Why? At least I don’t have to download and install gigabytes of files for something I might only use once?
IIRC Microsoft teams is a 1 GB install! The classic edition of it was like 200 or 400 MB.
Webtech based doesn’t mean small. Evidently.
Microsoft OneDrive is the maggots in the dog shit
There shouldn’t be worms in the poop of a healthy dog. This analogy just keeps getting better and more accurate.
Maggots aren’t worms.
Onedrive is pretty ok, other than being annoying. A company I worked for was acquired by another company that had their own cloud storage product. After the acquisition, they forced us to migrate from onedrive to their product. It was so bad… Files would constantly corrupt and disappear, the speed was terrible, trying to share files didn’t work half the time, when sharing folders the people you shared with wouldn’t see all the files in the folder. They also limited our storage from 1TB to 25GB making it pretty useless for storing builds of our product or trying to share VMs.
And the worst part is that they also closed our SMB network share to force us to use that piece of shit.
After that experience, I will never complain about Onedrive again.
Haha oh man that sounds infuriating. Of course it could be worse, but def could be better
Oooh, I hate it so bad…… I used to click “Save” and my word document would ask to save in the only folder I save ALL my documents in. Change the name, save, so easy!
Now it asks if I want to save to OneDrive… Fuck No Mr Paperclip! I want it in the folder I always use and don’t want to have to select “Other” then dig through screens to select the thing I use every time!
So annoying. The OneDrive documents folder masquerading as your actual docs folder. Diabolical.
What blows my mind is MS fucking bought Skype and somehow Teams still can’t handle video calls correctly. The actual fuck did they do with that acquisition?
Skype used to be peer to peer. Your call went from you to your friend (whomever). Microsoft decided that they couldn’t mitm that setup to scrape data; so, soon after they acquired Skype, they made all calls go through their servers.
Then they tried to make Skype make more money, since those servers aren’t free. Then they made teams and copied half the code into that, and cludged the rest to make it hold together.
How the fuck did they let motherfucking Zoom take over. The video-call equivalent of “Googling” something was to “Skype.” When Covid hit, Microsoft screwed the pooch horribly.
My sister is super high ranking at Microsoft, and when she calls the family, she uses Zoom.
Microsoft
Teamsis dog shitThat’s all.
Such a brave opinion on Lemmy you have balls if steel sir.
If steel what?
Your mother
😮
The file/document integration is based on SharePoint. Shit built on top of a nice pile of manure
Edit: and don’t get me started on the teams android app which requires access to all your media if you try to share a single image. If you share it as a file attachment however it’s completely fine. No you’re not getting access to my files and pictures MS, keep your filthy adware fingers off my data
I was expecting a detailed rant, including an example or two. “That’s all” is much, much funnier.
Need a Explanation?
(Gestures vaguely in the air)
I mean, with winter coming in, and universities not bothering to heat the building, teams turning my potato work laptop into a furnace is the only thing keeping us warm this winter…
Serious question - is their long term strategy bad optimisation to sell hardware? Do they have shares in intel or something?!?
You put more effort into this post than M$ did to their product
My company has teams and slack and IT wants to switch to all teams. The thread where they announced this had to be locked. :D I don’t know how a trillion dollar company can’t get this right. Worst yet the bundle that shit with everything and overworked IT depts pick it by default.
If a company uses other Microsoft products, chance are that Teams is bundled with whatever license they have. So for IT, it’s one less service to manage.
That is the actual reason this happens. Another one is financial people trying to cut costs or something. Slack licensing is not a small cost if you have lots of people.
However it should be said that IT and finance are supposed to support the company, not the other way around. If they’re choosing shit services they should be replaced with people who actually support the company.
It’s still better than WebEx because I don’t have to log in to that piece of shit software to start a video call.
I actually like Webex better because the audio doesn’t get choppy where I’m from. For Teams to have good audio, I’ve had to call from my mobile, and I get charged for that.
WebEx also has audio settings which teams doesn’t