• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Yup.

    You can kiss Trump ever seeing consequences for his crimes goodbye.

    Welcome to the new America.

    Elections have consequences and Americans are simply too stupid to maintain a democracy. So we won’t have one much longer.

    • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      Not happening at all, but the only hope for accountability is a massive blue wave in 2026 followed by an immediate impeachment. Even then that’s just early retirement.

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      9 days ago

      I don’t think that’s it. Citizens of the USA don’t care about Trump’s felonies at all, that does not affect anyone’s day to day life (except Trump). USA citizens are looking at bills and expenses that didn’t get better with Biden, and Harris was essentially the same candidate. The hope is maybe Trump will try something different to help.

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        8 days ago

        This is exactly it. A lot of people are struggling. They see less jobs, less pay, meanwhile the rich get richer. They see a system that benefits everybody except them. So Trump comes along and says he’s going to fuck up the system. That sounds pretty good. And if he can make a decent excuse that he’s been fucked by the system too, people are willing to overlook a lot.

        Plus, let’s not forget Harris had very little real message. Obama had a message- hope, change, yes we can. Hillary was as status quo as you can get, and people wants to reform. Kamala’s message was basically ‘I’m not Trump’ but unfortunately that’s not good enough to get you elected. Especially not when, before Biden dropped out and she got anointed, she was polling in the single digits.

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          8 days ago

          I’m just a foreigner who is very interested in global politics and from what I saw, Harris did have a real message, with policies to boot. Such has first home owners grant, small business grant and the goal of increasing the size of the middle class, which means giving more opportunities to lower class.

          Trump on the other hand was ranting incoherently and when he was coherent, sent a message that he was going to take people’s rights away.

          I don’t understand how Harris needed to be clearer when it was as clear as night and day that she was the best choice economically and would provide a more stable future. In my opinion, it wasn’t Harris’ fault she lost. She ran a decent campaign. It’s just that America is more than not racist, sexist and uneducated.

          Disclaimer: I’m not saying US is any worse or better. Heck, Australia voted no to indigenous recognition in our constitution while the US actually has support for their indigenous communities. We’re racist, dumb and sexist AF too. This is just an example of how powerful misinformation can be.

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            6 days ago

            Harris had some policies, but not a real underlying message. She could have made a message like ‘bring back the American dream’ and that might have gotten her a win. Obama’s message was ‘yes we can’. Trump’s message is ‘make America great again’. You need a theme message like that, if you only talk positions you get lost in the noise of our shitty media.

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                5 days ago

                If she was actually using that message, which I never heard, no wonder she lost. People don’t want the absence of something, they want radical change. They want a country that works for the middle class rather than just for the 1%. That’s why Obama’s message resonated. And that’s why Trump’s message resonates. He at least acknowledges that shit’s broken and he promises to fix it. He may be the wrong person to fix it and he may have no interest in fixing it, but his message at least acknowledges that there is a serious problem.

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                  4 days ago

                  I don’t know what to tell you dude. I’m just a foreigner and I heard that message over and over. It was as clear as day for me.

                  However, message or no, the US have put a convicted felon in charge of the country. I’m gobsmacked by that.