• Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    trump only picked up 500,000 more votes than last time. Lets hear from the 10,000,000 that voted in 2020 but not this election

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    9 days ago

    I know lots of people are really down on this but it seems like people just want change. We all know the system isn’t working for most people right now and want something different.

    Trump is different. Bad but different. If you have little hope make sense to break everything. If there’s a real progressive change candidate people will be excited. Change is what is needed

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      9 days ago

      This is something a lot of libs need to understand imo.

      You can rail on about how Trump is going to end democracy until the cows come home, it’s never going to sway voters. The average person is not doing very well and prospects look really bad for young people and democrats are refusing to acknowledge that things are broken. They are promising the status quo - and the status quo fucking sucks.

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        9 days ago

        Agreed. Run on change for the better. Higher minimum wages, universal health care, paid sick time, paid maternity / paternity leave. This will get votes because people want something better in their pocket books. Student loan forgiveness was a great policy to run on. If it wasn’t blocked in courts it would have given a huge boost to Biden.

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          9 days ago

          Absolutely. Bernie Sanders is incredibly popular (on both sides) and Joe Rogan actually endorsed him in 2020. All this talk about Joe Rogan winning the election for republicans is hilarious when you think about it.

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            9 days ago

            It is hilarious and sad that Joe Rogan wields so much power. But the point still stands that we need an economic policy to succeed. We need a Bernie Sanders like policy going forward.

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              I don’t think he actually has as much power as people are implying. I think the reason he was able to influence this election was because most undecided voters didn’t like either candidate very much, and so having someone like Joe Rogan sit down with Trump and humanize him was something that probably had a noticeable effect.

              I think that if Harris had actually run a campaign that actually addressed the needs of the average person she would’ve won easily and we’d be laughing at the fact that Trump was so desperate for votes he went on Joe Rogan.

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    11 days ago

    I appreciate the value of honesty and authenticity as key reasons people choose to support a candidate.

    However, it is clear that Donald Trump often makes false statements.

    Furthermore, Kamala Harris might have benefited from participating in more contemporary media formats, such as podcasts and Twitch streams, to enhance her outreach. Additionally, focusing less on appealing to Republican voters might have been advantageous, as this strategy CLEARLY contributed to her electoral loss.

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      11 days ago

      Being a complete phoney didn’t help. She had all the charisma of a late night preacher. That doesn’t play well with most people.

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          I just find her 100% fake, like she is always acting/performing. I don’t need to justify it, over half the US population agrees so it’s really not my problem it’s hers, and if you choose to defend her, yours.

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            10 days ago

            I just find her 100% fake,

            That reflects on you, not her. With a bullshit take like that you probably just resent her gender or something. Trump is the fake, since he is purely a bullshit artist with no other actual skills.

            so it’s really not my problem it’s hers,

            Its not her problem at all. It’s the country’s problem that people like you pick politicians for trivial bullshit “reasons”. Nothing can be done about people ruling out voting based on stupid shit like gender though.

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              I don’t understand what attacking the user for sharing their feelings gets you. It’s the vibe that enough voters shared in to stay home on election day. Her interviews seemed canned and focus group searched to death. Trump speaks like a deranged imbecile, but that’s how his voters are able to connect with him. He stands apart from the rest of the establishment despite being the most snake oil establishment figurehead there is. People see what they want to see in him. He is a tabula rasa for the magats

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                I don’t understand what attacking the user for sharing their feelings gets you. It’s the vibe that enough voters shared

                Because voting or not voting based on a “vibe” is the single stupidest reason anybody can have in making a voting choice. It is based on the idiotic idea that you are doing the candidate some sort of favor, rather than doing yourself a favor, by voting for a good candidate.

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                  I don’t disagree but it’s the sad reality of the world we live in. I don’t know what the solution is apart from more education but singling out this indv won’t get us far… I understand the frustration though.

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              9 days ago

              Sure I must be sexist, or racist. Keep going with that bullshit line of reasoning and see where it gets you. Obama is my favourite president. Nearly all of my mentors and role models are strong women. Plus you don’t even know my gender, or race, or nationality…

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                Okay but there must have been some actual reason that you didn’t state. The actual reason could not have been the reason you stated, that “she seemed fake”. Because nobody could be stupid enough to have that as their actual reason.

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    9 days ago

    I couldnt care less for the why. If you voted Trump, a third party candidate or not at all you are responsible for the coming fascism you waste of cells