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    With the social climate of the time, there would just be another guy who would replace him. It’s a fallacy to think “fixing” the individual will solve social problems.

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      Imagine that the hug changed the family, made them loving and supportive, and Hitler was just a recidivist incel who was destined to be hateful. Sometimes things can’t be changed, some people don’t want to be fixed, and some shitheads need to be rejected for who they are.

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        Honestly, you’d need to fix World War 1 and uhhh… Good luck. Hitler was just the drug addict the bitter world war 1 veterans and conservatives rallied around. There were multiple options. They all had similar stories, massive PTSD, using drugs and propaganda to cope.

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    Hitler’s father was quite cosmopolitan. He had a nationalist history teacher and a rough time after he was rejected from art school. Take that with a huge grain of salt since this is how he depicts it in his autobiography. I think the major part of his radicalization was in prison while he wrote Mein Kampf but that’s just my opinion.

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    They should probably try to fix the issues that caused the population to vote for him.

    It never about “fixing” or “killing” individuals, but about systems that do not work for some people.

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      Interwar Germany wasn’t meant to work. It was a collective punishment over a war the entire nobility of Europe jumped into with all the fervor of a kid with a new wargame.

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    I’ve actually thought about this type of thing quite a lot, and I’ve come to the conclusion that you’d have to go back to the first Sumerian cities, and convince all the regular peaceful cooperative people to kick out anyone who says anything along the lines of “do what I say or I’ll kill you”.

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      It wasn’t even “do what I say or I’ll kill you”. It was “this land is mine” - the establishment of private property. The lords never needed to explicitly make a death threat themselves when nature could make the death threat for them, and the victim is deprived of access to vital resources.

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        But being territorial with violence as enforcement goes back fast beyond that. Look at large cats or various primates. Yes the latter have enclaves but they are enclaves and tend to have a bruiser at the top

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          That’s probably why the peaceful cooperative non violent types tolerated the sociopaths in the first place… Need that bruiser to protect you from the neighboring city’s bruiser

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    With that humans possibly gone extinct due to diseases introduced on that timeline. On the other hand the time travellers just bought a new disease to the current timeline.

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    The line leading to Homo sapiens went extinct that day after trying to have peace talks with the much more aggressive neanderthal ancestors.

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      I think they messed up and went for the ancestors of bonobos, that’s why they’re so chill.

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      “neanderthal ancestors”, “that day”, “peace talks”

      you need to read about Neanderthals.

      Neanderthals never met ancestors of homo sapiens those apes in the strip seem to represent.

      they’re probably assimilated and not killed to extinction in a war

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          yes, according to researchers, they did meet homo sapiens and interbred

          The oldest potential Neanderthal bones date to 430,000 years ago

          Anatomically modern humans emerged around 300,000 years ago in Africa, evolving from Homo heidelbergensis or a similar species.

          The date of divergence of Neanderthals from their ancestor H. heidelbergensis is also unclear.

          my thinking was that if both homo sapiens and Neanderthals evolved from “h. heidelbergensis” than Neanderthals met h. sapiens but not their “ancestors”

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    I kind of think about things like this a lot because of my family. My mom’s parents were amazing. My mom was amazing. Her brother… total asshole. My dad’s parents - especially his mom - were beyond awful. Out of 6 kids, only 2 turned out good, and 1 was my dad. He’s told me so many times over the years how he swore he’d never be like his parents. I’ve wondered before how things might have turned out of my maternal grandparents had been awful and my paternal ones good. I wonder how things would have changed.