Wahhh, they didn’t cater directly to me for literally no reason as I’m not part of any significant voting bloc. Why would they personally attack me like that?
Anything to absolve yourself of the consequences for your stupid decision, right? Pathetic.
… what makes you think they didn’t vote for Kamala? I rolled through their last posts, nothing screams Trump.
… do you assume that because they criticized the democrats, they must be some form of evil? Why are you so gung-ho on defending the campaign. It really could’ve been a vastly better campaign, in so many ways.
Why are people not allowed to criticize the democratic party for botching this so badly?
Yeah no I’m sure we were a pissant minority made up of 5 people. There’s just no possible way the uncommitted movement actually contained a significant amount of Democrat constituents.
Wahhh, they didn’t cater directly to me for literally no reason as I’m not part of any significant voting bloc. Why would they personally attack me like that?
That’s a lot of interesting ways to avoid saying the Democratic party, through the mechanisms of the US government, directly funded, gave intelligence to, aided and supported a terrorist government committing the first live steamed genocide.
Maybe you didn’t pay attention. Maybe you weren’t aware that was happening.
But it was.
And others were paying attention.
You don’t get to fake quote someone like that and not mention the word Genocide without everyone knowing you are intentionally avoiding the word, and why.
People everywhere were pointing out what an insane political tactic backing it was, along with the fact that it was certain to cost the Democrats the election.
Accusing people that point out that what they said would happen did happen of being the cause of the failure of the DNC is some of the weirdest Stockholm syndrome shit I’ve seen.
All to protect the people responsible for the current situation.
It’s not an issue, they can just make it up. You see, everyone is stupid when you imagine that they have a stupid position and ignore any evidence to the contrary.
In that spirit, I’m pretty sure the person you’re talking to just took a shit on their ballot. So really this is all their fault.
People who don’t vote and people who can’t vote aren’t important because their voices don’t exist. They can shit themselves on twitter any day of the week until the heat death of the universe, their opinion don’t matter because so far democracy happens in the real world and not on twitter and reddit.
Last election was one of the active ones. The people who didn’t participate are roughly those who never do. If the prospect of one more Trump presidency didn’t motivate them, they are truly, totally non existant as citizens and frankly as members of society. Their voices exists only as an annoying buzz on social media, and their opinion don’t matter, newer were.
The people who didn’t participate are roughly those who never do.
2020:
Biden - 81.2 million
Trump - 74.2 million
2024:
Harris: 75 million
Trump: 77.3 million
Even if we assume Trump took all 3 million extra votes from Biden’s 2020 voters, there are still 3 million Biden 2020 voters who didn’t turn out for Harris. They cared enough to vote against Trump the 2nd time, just not this time.
Anyway, you are right in the sense that those few million likely wouldn’t have tipped the election anyway. You are dead wrong that they don’t matter. Completely counterproductive lesson to take from the election
You assume that those numbers are people who are left leaning, but as the research from the last election cycle showed, almost 80% are either consistently voting or consistently don’t, and the rest are roughly evenly spread.
Interesting link! Weird takeaway though. For one, it’s 67% consistently voting or not, 2/3 vs 4/5 is a big difference. Second, look at 2020. People who didn’t usually vote were most likely to vote then and they swayed dem. Probably because Trump was bad enough to make them more passionate about voting.
This shows that about a third of voters are intermittent and therefore available if people get them excited enough. I’m not saying it’s a good thing (it’s not), I’m just saying it’s a thing. Acting like they’re not important is turning your back on the people who could ultimately sway elections.
And that’s before we think about how many of the consistent non voters are apathetic vs how many just don’t have anyone they feel represents them.
I kept saying since last year Biden was throwing away his campaign but noooooooo, its the voters who are wrong.
Yeah people still don’t get it. It’s sad.
Anything to absolve yourself of the consequences for your stupid decision, right? Pathetic.
… what makes you think they didn’t vote for Kamala? I rolled through their last posts, nothing screams Trump.
… do you assume that because they criticized the democrats, they must be some form of evil? Why are you so gung-ho on defending the campaign. It really could’ve been a vastly better campaign, in so many ways.
Why are people not allowed to criticize the democratic party for botching this so badly?
People are doing it now to Ozma, mgl, VikingHippie, Ensign Crab, and others.
Logical criticism = aiding the enemy
Now? As though there has been some sort of pause.
Always have, its just non-stop. It’s a “now” as in “constant” not “now” as in new.
Sorry for being unclear.
If they’re too insignificant to listen to, they’re too insignificant to blame.
loses every single swing state
Yeah no I’m sure we were a pissant minority made up of 5 people. There’s just no possible way the uncommitted movement actually contained a significant amount of Democrat constituents.
That’s a lot of interesting ways to avoid saying the Democratic party, through the mechanisms of the US government, directly funded, gave intelligence to, aided and supported a terrorist government committing the first live steamed genocide.
Maybe you didn’t pay attention. Maybe you weren’t aware that was happening.
But it was.
And others were paying attention.
You don’t get to fake quote someone like that and not mention the word Genocide without everyone knowing you are intentionally avoiding the word, and why.
Damn, genocide, huh. Good thing you showed them genociders what’s what, now there will be no genocides at all
Did I?
You don’t know how I voted.
People everywhere were pointing out what an insane political tactic backing it was, along with the fact that it was certain to cost the Democrats the election.
Accusing people that point out that what they said would happen did happen of being the cause of the failure of the DNC is some of the weirdest Stockholm syndrome shit I’ve seen.
All to protect the people responsible for the current situation.
It’s not an issue, they can just make it up. You see, everyone is stupid when you imagine that they have a stupid position and ignore any evidence to the contrary.
In that spirit, I’m pretty sure the person you’re talking to just took a shit on their ballot. So really this is all their fault.
And those ignored core voter issues were?
Sorry, did I miss something and the democrats actually won? No? Then they were pretty fucking important it seems.
People who don’t vote and people who can’t vote aren’t important because their voices don’t exist. They can shit themselves on twitter any day of the week until the heat death of the universe, their opinion don’t matter because so far democracy happens in the real world and not on twitter and reddit.
How many million people didn’t vote? And how many million would Harris have needed?
Not voting is a choice and clearly it can be an important one. Their voices exist you just don’t seem to want to listen to what they’re saying.
Last election was one of the active ones. The people who didn’t participate are roughly those who never do. If the prospect of one more Trump presidency didn’t motivate them, they are truly, totally non existant as citizens and frankly as members of society. Their voices exists only as an annoying buzz on social media, and their opinion don’t matter, newer were.
2020:
Biden - 81.2 million
Trump - 74.2 million
2024:
Harris: 75 million
Trump: 77.3 million
Even if we assume Trump took all 3 million extra votes from Biden’s 2020 voters, there are still 3 million Biden 2020 voters who didn’t turn out for Harris. They cared enough to vote against Trump the 2nd time, just not this time.
Anyway, you are right in the sense that those few million likely wouldn’t have tipped the election anyway. You are dead wrong that they don’t matter. Completely counterproductive lesson to take from the election
You assume that those numbers are people who are left leaning, but as the research from the last election cycle showed, almost 80% are either consistently voting or consistently don’t, and the rest are roughly evenly spread.
Interesting link! Weird takeaway though. For one, it’s 67% consistently voting or not, 2/3 vs 4/5 is a big difference. Second, look at 2020. People who didn’t usually vote were most likely to vote then and they swayed dem. Probably because Trump was bad enough to make them more passionate about voting.
This shows that about a third of voters are intermittent and therefore available if people get them excited enough. I’m not saying it’s a good thing (it’s not), I’m just saying it’s a thing. Acting like they’re not important is turning your back on the people who could ultimately sway elections.
And that’s before we think about how many of the consistent non voters are apathetic vs how many just don’t have anyone they feel represents them.