• KISSmyOS@lemmy.world
    711·
    1 year ago

    If the company gave a noob unlimited access and can’t restore their data from backups, it’s really their fault, not the employee’s.

    • DrM@feddit.de
      29·
      1 year ago

      We had a management course in the university where this was one of the main things they highlighted:

      Managers faults are the managers fault.
      Employees faults are the managers fault. Without exception.

      And if you think about it, that’s completely true. If an employee does something stupid, it’s most of the time because they a) had the opportunity to do it and b) they weren’t taught well enough. If the employee keeps doing this mistake, the manager is at fault because he allows the employee to do the job where he can make the mistake. He obviously isn’t fit for that position.

        • smeg@feddit.ukEnglish
          11·
          1 year ago

          Well yes, but they wonder that when the manager isn’t taking responsibility and ensuing mistakes don’t happen. A good manager is worth their weight in gold, but thanks to the Peter Principle most of them just end up there without being qualified or even wanting to do it!

          • abraxas@sh.itjust.works
            5·
            1 year ago

            The problem is often checks and balances. A bad manager often (but not always) has a more secure job than a good employee.

            I have this opinion as a manager. If I have to terminate an employee, it’s my fault. It’s not a hard and fast rule and there are times where terminations happened because of unpredictable reasons… but it’s my job to find the candidate. It’s my job to match their skills to the job. It’s my job to give them a process wherein they can thrive. It’s my job to remediate non-issues before they become issues. There’s very few things that aren’t my job that could lead to a person being fired.

            I rate my team’s success higher than any other metric, even technical goals and milestones. I want to say it’s because I care about them (and I do!), but that’s not the reason. It’s my JOB to make them succeed. It’s my JOB for them to stay happy, for them to get recognition so they don’t feel marginalized. Bad managers aren’t bad because they put the company over the team. They’re bad because they put themselves over the team (and by extension, the company).

            • smeg@feddit.ukEnglish
              3·
              1 year ago

              I wish my last manager realised that. As well as being a people manager they were also a team lead and a sort of project manager. Guess which of the three roles they cared least about?

              • abraxas@sh.itjust.works
                2·
                1 year ago

                I know a lot of people who are great strategists or great team leads but who cannot actually focus on the needs of the team. I’ve seen so many situations where a little intra-team conflict turned into six figures of lost revenue and jobs lost because the manager couldn’t bring himself to get involved before money was being lost. You can’t NOT fire someone who crosses too many lines, but you can absolutely be at fault for them crossing those lines when they gave months’ notice and you could’ve talked situations down or improved policies.

                I was lucky. My first managing role was under someone whose philosophy was "the manager’s job is to focus on their team. If you can get 33% more productivity out of each team member, you do more good for the company than you could ever do by “just being better” or “just designing better” than them. And I thought 33% was crazy, until I actually started learning you can. By

      • LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.worksDeutsch
        10·
        1 year ago

        “Eh, go away. I suppose it’ll work flawlessly. I’ll test it if I need it. I’ll have to look into the procedure anyways. Get off my back!”

      • cybersandwich@lemmy.world
        8·
        1 year ago

        0, thanks for asking.

        Seriously though, how are you guys testing your home backups? I don’t have a spare Synology nas sitting around or spare 16tb drives.

        • Knusper@feddit.de
          7·
          1 year ago

          The only way to test restoring a backup is to actually restore it. And for that, you do need spare hardware.

          So, to answer your question, I don’t test my home backups either. I reckon pretty much no one is dedicated enough to do that.

          I’m hoping, if shit really hits the fan that I can still pick out my important files and just manually re-setup the rest of the system. So, with a longer downtime in that sense.

          That strategy is just absolutely not viable for companies, where downtimes are more expensive than spare hardware, and where you really can’t tell users you restored some files, they should do the rest.

  • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
    58·
    1 year ago

    Wasn’t there some saying about if you’re in a server room, the calmer the “Oops,” the worse the problem?

    • jarfil@lemmy.world
      20·
      1 year ago

      “Ooopppsss… 💤”, both containers of the UPS flow battery ruptured at the same time and flooded the whole server room… call me tomorrow for the planning meeting when things stop burning and firefighters have had a chance to enter the building.

  • MrNesser@lemmy.world
    24·
    1 year ago

    Had a colleague do this to the local AD server years ago.

    Thankfully they pulled the plug before the changes could propagate through the network completely but it still took 3 days to recover the data and restore the AD server.

    • LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.worksDeutsch
      2·
      1 year ago

      Yeah, that was extremely funny, but I had nothing stored there at that moment. I guess some gitlab administrator lost twenty pounds in sweat that day.