• ℛ𝒶𝓋ℯ𝓃@pawb.social
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        11 months ago

        This is the best thing to do. Let them waste their money on printed, mailed ads, and use it to taunt them on the internet and expose how they badger and milk their cattle customers.

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          Not very environmentally friendly. I just send it all back, then they need to waste space and personnel on sorting their own junk.

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      lol, I’ve done this, multiple times. the only thing that has changed was that my name was replaced by “Residential Consumer” for the subsequent spam.

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      As are modern sales.

      There should be a different name for people at a store that answer questions about a product on request.

      No one should be trying to convince anyone to buy anything as a job. What the hell is that? If you make a cool product/service/thing for a reasonable price, people will come to you. If you don’t, stop trying to pressure people into consuming it when they otherwise wouldn’t.

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        There’s different types of marketing.

        One type is awareness marketing, which is exactly the type that’s the furthest from “forcing shit down your throat”.

        Then later, when you’re searching for something and see their name, your monkey brain will prefer the “familiar” option.

        And tbh I do have to disagree with “people will come to you”, it’s really hard to grow if people don’t know you exist.

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          And tbh I do have to disagree with “people will come to you”, it’s really hard to grow if people don’t know you exist.

          I’m against the concept of unnecessary growth/metastasis. I prefer homeostasis/equilibrium.

          Unless you’re bringing something profoundly superior to what exists to the table that will have people who hear rumors of it coming to you, there’s no need for a 76th brand of chicken sandwich.

          We’re growing/metastasizing our species and a lot of other species into oblivion. It’s a shame our species is belligerently unwilling to consider a different strategy.

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            What about a thing that would actually change your life for some reason?

            Would you prefer not knowing about it?

            Of course there’s no reason for the 76th brand of chicken sandwich, but that’s also not what I’m talking about at all.

            Marketing itself is fine and a healthy tool for growth, showing ads into people’s eyeholes every chance you get is not.

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              Marketing itself is fine and a healthy tool for growth

              I reiterate, our species is growing/metastasizing itself and it’s habitat into oblivion.

              This is a finite world with finite resources, and 3,000 or so assholes have already claimed most of its finite resources at gunpoint and are at this point swallowing one another’s empires whole in their desperation to keep growing/metastasizing on a conquered board.

              We can’t grow/metastasize our way out of our species many crises caused by reckless growth/metastasis to begin with, any more than my country can solve its school shooting problem by handing every teacher and student a loaded glock.

              If we cared about survival, if we cared about our children, we don’t btw, we’d be planning to reduce our species size and footprint for the next several generations to a scale this world can sustainability support without hundreds of millions living in squalor.

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                So you’re hating on the 3000 assholes who’ve already cornered the market and now you want a world where new companies possibly founded by someone no-as-assholish are doomed to stay unknown and fail?

                People will keep choosing what they know, if you don’t allow new players to enter the market, these old massive conglomerates will keep on growing, keep on consuming the competition.

                It’s a hyperbole, but only a small one.

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                  New players largely can’t “enter the market” without being bought out unless they have very uncharacteristic in business leaders unwilling to sell to a conglomerate, that’s usually considered victory these days, and literally every company that grows to the point of being and agrees to be publically traded must do every sociopathic thing they can to increase profit or they will be sued.

                  I don’t think a new group of people playing at this sick game will be any better than the last. If they were, the market ensures they won’t be better for long by design. Growth isn’t the answer. Growth is the problem. Our species needs to shrink or it will continue to suffer until it perishes by its own hands, and that is what we will do. I don’t think there is a solution, but I do know if there is, it won’t be found in economic growth/metastasis.

                  That’s just saying the cure to a poison is to drink… More of the same poison.

    • Emerald@lemmy.worldOP
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      11 months ago

      They aren’t even getting their target market right, sending me “move-in” offers when I haven’t moved.

    • Emerald@lemmy.worldOP
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      11 months ago

      Yeah i went from a speed of 10 mbps upload to a speed of 300 mbps upload thanks to fiber

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        11 months ago

        There is an actual technical reason for coax networks not being able to provide symmetrical speeds. It has to do with what frequencies (channels) are dedicated to data uplink, data downlink, and cable TV. Cable TV is still the cash cow for coax providers, and installing appropriate channel splitters network-wide to reallocate higher-bandwidth channels to data uplink would result in days or weeks of downtime for cable subscribers, not to mention the crippling amount of money in new hardware. It is a consequence of how the networks were physically built when providers thought that cable and download speeds were all anyone needed; it’s not just a software switch they can flip if they wanted to.

        Spectrum still sucks, but asymmetrical Internet speeds are not one of the things they suck at on purpose.

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            It makes sense when you think about it, upstream is typically in the like 5-40mhz range, where downstream/tv is in the 40mhz-1ghz range. The splitting and routing is done at the analog level, similar to how a low-pass filter routes low frequencies to a subwoofer in a high-end audio setup.

            You can’t just have a hardware low pass filter start filtering upstream traffic above what the equipment is designed for, and with frequencies that low there just isn’t the bandwidth for the throughput people want.

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      11 months ago

      I’ve seen advertisements fiber internet is in my area (Frontier), starting price is $59, guessing the price goes up eventually?

      • Fuck spez@sh.itjust.works
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        Only to business/enterprise customers AFAIK. It’s actually rock solid in terms of reliability in my experience with a couple dozen customers in the Midwest. Even their residential coax connections are fiber-uplinked from the nearest switch, and are reasonably reliable.

        Edit: None of which is to suggest that they aren’t still a shitty company in terms of their other business practices. They once included guest hotspots with every new business installation that used their customers’ power to sell more Spectrum services to anyone within WiFi range.

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    11 months ago

    Spectrum still sends that much spam even if you are a customer already.

    No, i dont want your tv bundle i literally havent had any desire to watch cable tv for over a decade please stop asking!

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      Most people don’t know this but the USPS has their own official stamp for that purpose and any marked or drawn on letters they receive likely go to the trash. Try attaching a sticky note and putting it in the outgoing mail, or talking to the post office directly (although many offices go to great lengths not to give you time).

      TLDR: Don’t write on the envelope or it won’t be returned.

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    I’m a current customer and still get shit like the frequently, usually they want me to add cable TV and/or phone to my internet-only package. It’s really obnoxious. You’d think after me ignoring it for 8 years they would give up but nope, still at least once a month one pops up in my mailbox.

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      11 months ago

      Imagine paying to not be able to control anything and still getting ads.

      Oh, that’s just cable…

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      SiriusXM is the only one I went to the process to opt-out. I received 2-3 letters every week and at least an email per day. Their service would be cheaper if they didn’t spend all their budget on marketing

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        11 months ago

        The desire to recreate this posts image with siriusxm letters, would need a bigger table though it seems

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    11 months ago

    My ex is ATT fiber which, despite having zero love for ATT, was pretty great.

    They are trying to get me back…but they don’t offer fiber (or any service!) at my new address.

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      I have zero love for ATT but love my fiber plan. I’d like to switch, since they don’t let me change the DNS server, but the plan I had before was awful and my internet dropped all the time.

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        Are you sure about that? I’m using the official AT&T fiber modem (Nokia white oval) and a pi.hole for DNS. I do remember needing to change a number of settings to get it to work though.

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    I’ve never even had them, just went on their website and put in my address to see what’s available, and I get tons of these too. Frontier is cheaper and waaaaaay faster, so fuck Spectrum.

    • Emerald@lemmy.worldOP
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      So if I really hate someone, I can just put their address into the Charter Spectrum website?

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    They even ambush me every time I go to the grocery store. And they’ve doubled my bill since I signed up. Why bother marketing when you can raise rates whenever you want? They could save so much money by not mailing every day and hiring people to hunt me

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    This is me and Dish. Been over five years and I still get at least one a month. Post office was kind enough to notify them of my new address twice.

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      No they’re just ads for whatever starter bundle they have right now.

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          The ex is Charter Spectrum. It’s a joke about how I cancelled my service with them

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            Oh my god, I’m such a fucking idiot! Thank you for you patience and sorry for being so slow!

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          They likely had Spectrum as an Internet provider, but left them for a better one. Spectrum sends lots of spam in an attempt to bring them back like an ex-lover trying to win them back.

    • i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      No. These are printed plastic advertisements delivered via the postal service. (Other companies might purchase small mini catalogs/coupon books, colorful envelopes, or eye-catching postcards for their mail-based advertisements.) These mailers are sent to many people. Most people refer to these mailers as “junk mail.”

      Spectrum is very bad about sending lots of these, as OP has shared.

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    These are extra ignorable because there’s no way you’re going to end up paying the rate on the card. They are actually trash.