“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders said.

“First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”

“Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic Party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign?” Sanders asked.

“Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful Oligarchy which has so much economic and political power? Probably not.”

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    “It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” Sanders said in a statement Wednesday. “First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right.”

    Dems 100% sold them out and assumed they’d still vote D as long as a handful of issues were different.

    The worse the Republicans got, the worse Dems got. Because they could get away with it and it increased donations.

    The thing is it just energizes republicans and depresses Dem turnout.

    If the goal is winning elections is a terrible strategy.

    If you only care about money and the election is just a grift to you tho, it’s a win/win. The result of the election doesn’t really matter.

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      To be fair, they should’ve voted Dem, but instead sat out against their own best interest.

      The electorate is incredibly fucking stupid.

      The strategy made sense to anyone with half a brain. It seems I overestimated the median American, though.

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        You’re right. Lot of people sat out because of inflation, which was driven by corporate greed, which of course a Republican is not going to address. The electorate needs a fucking education. Prices have stopped climbing aggressively. They’re not going to go back down. Wage growth is the next step, which is another thing a Republican will not address. Americans cutting off their nose to spite their face.

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          Dems had 3 years and change to address insane profiteering and price gouging that started with COVID “supply chain issues” which was wrapped under the guise of inflation and record profits. Where’s that bill again?

          Kamala made 1 mention of a plan to scrutinize this issue and then backed down because of some potential backlash.

          There’s education and there’s gaslighting. Your point is the latter.

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            Remind me again when Biden had a supermajority in Congress?

            Edit: That’s what I thought.

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              Just didn’t get to responding to this ignorant take.

              Dems’ job is go out and get votes by appealing to their voters. The fact that Dems haven’t had a super majority in the decades past as our protections, economy and civil liberties are under attack means that they are absolutely terrible at their jobs and you just made my point for me.

              You clearly didn’t think anything through. :-)

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                Haha it took you this long to come up with this shit take?

                Better give yourself a month next time.

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      Yeah. The Democrats really screwed the pooch on that one. He’s a solid candidate, and has stood on his moral stance from before the Democrats recognized the issues that are now popular.

      Sorely needed, sorely missed.

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          I’m not sure he would have ran again even if Biden stepped down in the most graceful way possible to be honest. The second time he ran I remember him saying a large part of why he did was because people kept telling him how much they felt the country needed him, while he himself was having doubts on his ability to fill the office in his age, or weighing the amount of stress it would bring, and even looking at his vote totals and wondering if the country even wanted him as president. He’s gotta be tired, and my take on Sanders these past 8 years is if Trump didn’t exist he’d have been a happily retired grandpa, and he’s just trying to do whatever he thinks has the best chance to stop Trump and American Fascism in general. This perspective seems to make a lot of things line up including this verbal thrashing of his. He does have access to communication with top democratic play-makers, who knows how long hes been telling them something like this.

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      At this point I’d be in favor of him just starting a podcast and enjoying retirement. The left has to go around the DNC to effectively deliver their message, it’s foolish to think otherwise.

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        The dnc should all fall on their sword politically and admit that it would been better today had they given being their blessing and support when it would have mattered.

        Then give Bernie power in the dnc to craft the future of the party. Find a new direction while there’s still time

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    I would vote for Bernie in a heartbeat.

    He seems to always be on the right side of history, he understands the root causes of our national crises, and he has solutions.

    Problem: Two-party system, voter apathy.

    Solution: Ranked choice voting, remove electoral college (popular vote interstate compact).

    Problem: Bought elections.

    Solution: Repeal Citizens United.

    Problem: Federal deficit spending.

    Solution: Reform government contracts with private corpos so we’re not getting gouged. Repurpose military budget. Tax the rich.

    Problem: Ignorant and misinformed voting population.

    Solution: More school funding, pay teachers more.

    Problem: All surplus value is siphoned away from the working class.

    Solution: Tax incentives for employee-owned companies. More support for unions.

    Problem: Consumer price gouging.

    Solution: Break up monopolies, punish anti-competitive behavior.

    Problem: Irresponsible banking.

    Solution: Un-repeal Glass-Steagall.

    Problem: Expensive healthcare.

    Solution: Universal healthcare. Don’t even try to tell me we can’t afford it.

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      Considering multiple blue states just voted against RCV, and the majority of the country voted to put even more ultra-conservative SCOTUS judges on the court, I’m not sure he is on the right side of history.

      History is being written right now, soon to be dictated by Donald Trump, and recorded through the lens of Donald Trump. What will the fascist schoolbooks written by the Texas board of education say to remember the people who stood up against Trump?

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    I think the time has arrived for party diversification. If the DNC wants my vote back they’ll need to earn it back. I have thrice voted for them to avoid a Trump Presidency, and 2/3 of those attempts were unsuccessful.

    No longer will my vote be held hostage by the people that will squander it. From now on I vote for who I want, not against who I don’t, since it apparently doesn’t matter anyway. At least this way I vote on my own terms.

    Bernie is too good for us, we need someone like him with a shot at gaining popularity for policy stances not backed by one of the large establishment parties.

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      It really says something when the media browbeated minorities actively harmed by neoliberal policies into voting Democrat and never third party, and third party didn’t even sway anything in any state.

      I voted Green in 2016 in California and I regretted it. I voted Democrat in 2020 (knowing it doesn’t matter, I live California), despite Sanders getting shafted a second time. I voted Harris in 2024, and I swallowed my morals to do it.

      And I got nothing but Trump rolling out his plans his oligarchs planned since 1980.

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        What is says is that the Green Party has always been a joke that exists solely to trick idealists like yourself into throwing away your vote every 4 years.

        The reason they didn’t vote third party is because it’s always been a joke.

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          I don’t like this argument. Ideally Republicans and Democrats should be giving olive branches to the larger third parties, whom you voted for in the primary. I’d much rather see a third party base putting pressure on topics, that’s the whole point of having third parties. It’s like a political game of chess and you shouldn’t have to default to a 2 partily echo chamber.

          Same could be said of boycotting the election all together. It’s a power play in order to motivate the parties to change.

          The point of the two parties should be earning your vote by representing you. Skipping the primary for Biden’s replacement was the downfall of this election because it weakened the support of the candidate before she even started.

          On the flip side, I do agree that Jill Stein is a grifter

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            If they were serious parties, they wouldn’t disappear for 4 years, only to come out of their hole for one presidential election, before disappearing again. That’s not how you create a successful or even viable party.

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    Rare Bernie L. You absolutely can blame the non voters. They are just as bad as every MAGA voter.

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      Yes Draedron, you can. But you’ve already established your genocidal credentials. The rest of us will continue to mop up the mess you, harris/biden, and the dnc made as usual.

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        You are the one who picked the fascist by not voting. You are the one who gave power to someone who will worseb the genocide against Palestinians, Ukrainians and enables the coming genocide against Taiwanese people.

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          🤷 my vote was available, 20 million other votes were available, I showed up, I begged you, harris, biden, the dnc, my reps all year to stop a genocide. I warned you. My state went for harris, as I told you it would. but I fucking warned you what was about to happen.

          I. Told. You. What. Was. About. To. Happen. you, like an ostrich, buried your head in the sand and sang ‘lalala evil.’ Now you’re lashing out as if you didn’t choose this.

          You. Choose. This. The only person you have to blame is yourself and those mentioned above.

          Your willingness to support a genocidal candidate above everything CHOOSE THIS.

          Your willingness to play holier than thou and demand other people vote for a genocidal candidate CHOOSE THIS.

          Your willingness to put corporate well being over american well being well being CHOOSE THIS.

          Its okay to admit you made a mistake, say it after me: ‘I did this. me. but next time I will do better’

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            You chose this by not voting. You think democracy and fascism are the same so you chose not to vote and risk fascism taking over. You caused this. And you will now see that fascism is not preferrable to democracy. Dont come and expect empathy. You are responsible for this by not voting for democracy.

            But I am glad you admitted in your final sentence you made a mistake. Its too late now though. Your country will go down in flames thanks to your decision

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              You keep saying that, but I voted; just not in the manner you wanted because I don’t support genocides under any circumstances.

              again you chose this. you were warned. people told you. no amount of assertions by you will change these facts. when someone tells you what they’re going to do you should believe them.

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                You threw your vote away like every non voter.

                You heard what Trump will do and decided not to vote against him because you dont mind fascism. You chose this and you will suffer the hardest consequenceq. I wont. You chose fascism over democracy for something that will not change no matter the outcome. Something that will get even worse now. With Harris Palestinians would have a chance of survival. You took that chance away from them. Their blood is on your hands. The blood of your fellow countrymen and women who will die due to Trumps policies is on your hands.

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                  Keep telling yourself that. You’ve seen the results of your position. Its a losing position. Your inability to self reflect will lead you to continuously repeating the same mistakes as you’ve done here.

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      Blaming the poor is a cool and fun take. If you willing want to blame those for which voting is actually a burden then you are the problem.

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    Democrats have definitely become the elitist party. They parade their rich celebrity friends around to inspire your vote. Can it become more ridiculous?

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      And you’re saying “billionaire” Donald Trump up on stage with the wealthiest man in the world is somehow more in-touch?

      Jesus Christ, get real you guys.

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      Don’t you mean Trump? The literal billionaire who represents the richest man in the world? Weird