• db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    27 days ago

    Cruelty. Cruelty is the reason. I can’t believe you’re still trying to reason with fascists.

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      27 days ago

      Still, it’s nice to see a conservative think-tank take a position that isn’t just capitulation to the further right.

      Not that it’ll accomplish anything (though maybe it’ll sway enough of the justices to make a difference in the court).

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      26 days ago

      I don’t think OP or the author are trying to reason with fascists, they are speaking to uninformed average Americans.

      If someone already has the opinion that birthright citizenship should be removed, there’s no reasoning to even flirt with

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    26 days ago

    The Fourteenth Amendment covers birthright citizenship, but also covers whether or not someone can be disqualified from office if they have “… engaged in insurrection or rebellion…”.

    Wonder who would benefit if the 14th was repealed?

    Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

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    26 days ago

    That’s only 420 years of precedent, practically nothing I’m sure the Supreme Court can find better established precedent than that

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      26 days ago

      You’ve seen our supreme court, right? Even if they can’t repeal or amend it, I’m sure they’d do their best to poke holes in it if they can.

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    I mean I think there are reasons. Its as far as I know unique to the US and certainly not the standard. That being said it makes the US less desirable of a destination and no matter what their delusions we are not going to make enough babies to fill the jobs. As a country we need immigration and one of our strengths is we embrace it.

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        26 days ago

        I just read an argument today about not focusing on every little thing Trump says and instead coming in when there’s going to be real negative repercussions. The reason why is because when journalists repeat the lies of Trump, people even those who are clearly against Trump may accidentally internalize one of his lies through no fault of their own.

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          There would be real negatives to this, but it doesn’t seem likely to happen. An executive order can’t override the constitution …. I hope

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        yeah spongebue corrected me on it with a link about 30 mins ago so you just missed it. Makes me wonder how sporadic the nodes have with updates.

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      26 days ago

      In all seriousness, AI is going to remove most job requirements at this rate.

      The dystopia has already started for us in America.

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        Not from what I can tell. I actually have this very broad tech background so if AI was all that useful I would theoretically be super primed for such a thing but I am looking for work now and they still pretty much want people fairly specialized.

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      26 days ago

      we are not going to make enough babies to fill the jobs

      Until they ban contraception and force pregnancy or abstinence, en masse. That’s coming next, after the national abortion ban.

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    26 days ago

    My question is, how far back with this can you go? first generation? second? (that’s me) third? where does it end?

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      Just FYI, in case you didn’t know, “first generation” refers to the first generation born in the new country, not the original immigrants.

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    This would create a permanent underclass you could criminalize and exploit. Great for profits!

    But when you decide it would be good for your election to do a mass deportation, where would you deport to? Are they all Mexicans now?