Summary

Donald Trump and Republican lawmakers are pushing to classify vandalism against Tesla as domestic terrorism.

Trump declared that those damaging Tesla dealerships would face terrorism charges, calling the company “a great American company.”

Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene and others urged the FBI and Attorney General to investigate alleged Democrat-linked NGOs behind Tesla attacks, though no evidence was provided.

Greene may have violated House ethics rules by advocating for Tesla while owning its stock.

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    18 minutes ago

    I hate Elon and I don’t even disagree with targeting Tesla. But let’s be real. Mass targeted vandalism and especially arson are clearly forms of violence. The victims of this violence are civilians and the purpose of the violence is to achieve political goals through instilling fear.

    Agree with the actions or not, that’s terrorism.

    If people started targeting and burning down costcos for being woke/DEI, that would be terrorism for the exact same reason, not because the ideology is different.

    People need to stop pussyfooting around the label and accept that words mean certain things. The issue is not whether or not it’s terrorism. The argument should be whether or not the actions are justifiable.

    It’s like whinging about whether or not we say “Osama Bin Laden was killed” or if the person who shot him is a “killer” because killing in general is bad/wrong.

    Now the government response of categorizing certain people vs others as terrorists matters. What it means for people resisting Trump matters. But those are different arguments.

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    2 hours ago

    Serious question: Historically, has a fascist movement ever been put down without the use of violence?

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    2 hours ago

    Quick history moment:

    The US government has always treated politically motivated vandalism as domestic terrorism.

    The FBI defined Earth First!, Earth Liberation Front, and similar radical environmental groups as terrorist organizations decades ago, because they spiked trees and burnt subdivisions and SUV dealerships.

    The Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act makes it an act of terrorism to vandalize a factory farm or animal research lab - even nonviolent protest that “intimidates” employees is illegal.

    Some of y’all are acting like burning car dealerships was legal before Trump. Come on.

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    What a bunch of snowflakes. What’s wrong? Are we hurting his feelings? The richest douchebag, who doesn’t know what he’s doing, with his head is so far up his own ass I’m sure he can taste it, doesn’t like being called what he is? 🎻

    Fuck him. I have no pity for fascists. 🖕🏾

  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 hours ago

    Bruh…

    I emigrated from a country that makes it illegal to criticize leaders

    only to end up in a country that is also about to make criticizing leaders illegal.

    Just… wow

    (from PRC to USA)

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      7 hours ago

      Come to UK / Europe. We’ve got universal healthcare and more robust democracy and many centurys long tradition of criticising and mocking our leaders.

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      7 hours ago

      Torching and destroying cars and dealerships isnt the same as some critical speech… The title is just a complete clickbait fabrication…

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        If someone can’t say that Israel is wiping innocent lives off their homeland in a fashion that can only be described as a genocide without it being deemed illegal and grounds for a criminal offense and/or other punishments, freedom of speech does not exist. It is in no way anti semitism. Israel is a state, not a religion. Long before Israel was paying politicians in the U.S. for their states best interests whether for the good of humanity or not, Jewish people existed, and long after the U.S. and Israel are gone, Judiasm will likely be here. Judiasm isn’t asking them to murder children, politicians are ordering it.

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        7 hours ago

        Torching and destroying cars is already illegal. No reason to designate it as domestic terrorism.

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          If they are considered terrorists, it is easier for MAGA to justify sending them to the concentration camps in Guantanamo or El Salvador.

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    8 hours ago

    “trump was right about everything”, denial is the first stage of grief. the rest will come in due time don’t worry.

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    22 hours ago

    What about Vandalism against other car dealers. That’s also domestic terrorism, right?

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      This is coming from someone who doesn’t necessarily disagree with burning down Tesla dealerships.

      1. Define terrorism

      2. Explain how burning down Tesla dealerships to resist Elon’s political takeover is not terrorism

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    Republicans are something society needs to leave behind in full. They literally don’t stand for anything and are net negative for society.

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      The destruction of the mainstream conservative media by companies like NewsCorp have yielded great results for right wing authoritarians.

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      At this point, they clearly aren’t even for corporations or shareholders, given the most recent cascade of economic catastrophes.

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        This is the only hope for America not to fall, if Trump and Musk also screw the elites too much there will be much more likely a revolution.

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    from TFA:

    go for the tires. easily accessible. high energy density.