• dlove67@feddit.nl
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    Placing my bets on it being a mistake or flatout lies.

    But hoping for real and reproducible

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      It’s crazy how in the past 5 years my faith in not only American government, but pretty much all of humanity has gone to nearly zero.

      It’s like that “oh really” Willy Wonka meme.

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        Not all humans, but most of humanity yeah

        I keep hoping we’ll get off this planet and seed others so people can stop bickering and shooting over land lines on the same rock, but it’s getting harder and harder to find people willing to work for the greater good (not that one) and move forward as a species.

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        There’s been tons of anti-American propaganda social media for at least eight years. The CCP and Kremlin realized they could divide Americans from within through social media.

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      None of it has been lwwr reviewed but it has been reproduced in a lab in china and it has been modelled by an American lab and has been shown to work

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    My money says it’s not, the video didn’t look like anything other than a poor magnet.

    Everyone wants to hope they’re living in the time of the next revolution, and I hope we are as much as anyone else, but it’s not going to be “toss these 4 elements into an oven and cook”. Super conductivity is going to be an extremely precisely engineered substance.

    If cheaply manufactured low production cost room temperature super conductors are ever available our world will look like that within a decade. Unfortunately we are probably going to cook our planet before we get within 15 years of the above discovery

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      I mean, even if LK-99 turns out to be legit but insanely expensive to manufacture, that’s a starting point for research on how to make it easier to manufacture.

      Data storage used to be incredibly bulky and expensive. Now you can buy a chip the size of your fingernail holding hundreds of gigabytes of data for a couple ten dollars.

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        If they’d said I’d was insanely expensive, or time consuming, out used really specific isotopes of the elements they’re using, I’d be much much more inclined to believe them.

        The specificity that room temperature conductivity they’re claiming to have achieved (an entirely new variety of super conductivity) by having certain atoms in certain orientation to allow for quantum tunneling, doesn’t just come out of an oven after a few days of cook time, the atoms would need to be aligned, and all of the same isotope, at the masses they supposedly demonstrated the odds of it all occurring are beyond atomically small.

        They wrote what was a guarantee to capture the attention of the media, cheap, extremely efficient, and very safe/easy to produce. When/if room temperature super conductivity comes it isn’t fitting into all 3 of those things.

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      Everyone wants to hope they’re living in the time of the next revolution,

      Eh, we already live in the age of silicon chips, good enough for me.

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        Technology has advanced more in my lifetime than in the prior thousand years, we are very much in the middle of the greatest revolution in tech ever.

        The fact people are often so jaded about it amazes me.

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          Yeaah and there are so many tech products that have only become a reality in the last 20 or so years. Robot vacuums, consumer 3D printers, LED lights, batteries that actually hold a useful enough amount of power for high power devices which actually even our phones are. Crazy that my phone is ridiculous amounts faster than the first computer I used, yet it lasts a full day on single charge. People take all of this and more for granted.

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    Oh I’m sure corporations will find some way to make tons of money at everyone else’s expense. So far the future is a dystopian capitalist hell that nobody capable of affecting change is motivated to actually do so.

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      Think of how much longer we can make devices last!

      Now think about how the manufacturers will also never let that happen.

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        Too bad the overwhelming majority of people just can’t be bothered. If, for instance, everyone all at once decided to stop using or paying for Comcast and refused to do so, then Comcast would fold pretty quickly and there’d be literally nothing they could do about it. They might sell it all to a collections agency, but that would be the end of it all.

        But since boycotts are nearly impossible to impose successfully unless you can convince a critical mass to give up whatever inconvenience the boycott is for. Not to mention contrarians and anyone who disagrees with the reason for said boycott, who may even double down out of spite or principle. But by and large, most people just don’t care.

        That said, must of what’s left on Reddit are niche communities, bots, and the kind of people who also keep Facebook up and running. Lemmy, meanwhile, has a marginally higher bar for entry - the requirement of doing more than 5 minutes of research - it seems so far to weed out most of the idiots who ruined the Internet anyway.

        Seriously, remember what it was like in the 90s and 00s? So much less stupid and corporate greed clogging up the place.

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        This is why I sign union-drive support sheets. You can also support unions by buying their merch to raise awareness and contribute to worker funds. I now have four styles of tshirts:

        1. Solid or blended plain tshirt
        2. Band or artist design
        3. Podcasts that I like
        4. Unions that I support

        No corporate logos on my person other than my jeans, and you aren’t getting close enough to see or read that. And my socks, under my shoes, because they’re super cushiony.

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      LK-99 is a supposed superconductor that can operate at ambient atmospheric press and below temperatures of 127°c/260°f. In other words, a room-temperature superconductor. The holy grail of conductors. A material that’d completely revolutionize literally everything. Not only that, it’s made out of a lead-apatite, meaning it would potentially be relatively inexpensive to make. We could be on the edge of a new era.

      AND HERE COMES THE BUTT

      BUT my understanding is that attempts to replicate the experiment are currently inconclusive. There have supposedly been successful replications as well as unsuccessful attempts, however none of the papers have been peer reviewed yet. Additionally, computer simulations have given inconsistent results.

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        To add to this, this all burst into the news last week when some of the researchers behind LK-99 announced it just last week, and so labs around the world have been furiously trying to replicate their claimed results these past several days.

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        You forgot to mention the source of this info on lk 99 is coming from Russian and Chinese sources… and in the current climate they don’t have truckloads of credibility

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          Hey, you guys need to get out of the echo chamber every now and then. Originally discovered from a south Korean team. The experiment has been replicated by US, Chinese and Russian teams.

          I’m very team skeptical, but I also like to celebrate good news and by itself. This is good news, is sort of the spirit of OP post. Once this gets out the lab what are the possibilities

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            Were all the replications successful? I’d heard the Chinese team claimed success but didn’t show proof, the Russian team claimed their results were negative but there was supposedly evidence that they’d used the wrong material (I’m not a scientist, just repeating what I’ve read) and I hadn’t heard anything about a US team replicating it in a lab (I’d heard there were simulations, but no lab results from US teams). Is there new info that I’ve missed? The fact that some simulations show similar results to the original paper makes me hopeful, but again, those are just simulations.

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          scientific discoveries really shouldn’t be determined as good or bad based on who discovered it.

          not like a superconductor can spy on you lmao