Let me get this straight:
- Person A makes a social network
- People flock to it
- Person A sells the social network to person B
- Networks does a 180, destroying communitie; people outraged.
- Same person A makes a social network
- People flock to it.
- [surely we can predict what is going to happen here, right?]
This doesn’t really change your point at all, but I remember reading the tech news surrounding the Twitter sale to Musk as it was happening. If memory serves, Musk literally made the $420/share purchase offer as a joke, a joke that several lawsuits were filed to decide it was a serious and legally binding offer.
He memed his way into owning Twitter against his will, and then burned down everything to assuage his ego. But because he’s a goddamn billionaire there are literally no repercussions.
I love that the people who weren’t smart enough to leave Twitter two years ago are now eagerly jumping from one frying pan into another.
Fortunately there have been a few who learned their lessons a bit late and came over to Mastodon.
But the rest of them? The one who tolerated the racism and misogyny that Musk brought with his red pilled idiots? Let them have Blue Sky and the rest of us can watch as history eventually repeats itself.
Bluesky is dead. Long live Mastodon.
Just because democrats are leaving Twitter, this doesn’t make it dead in the slightest sense of the word
The feetdraggers will slowly, begrudgingly follow–as always.
Long live Activity Pub.
If I want an echo chamber, I’ll just go back to reddit. Bluesky is ass.
idk why the downvotes. you’re right.
Because Lemmy is equally an echo chamber, and historically people do not like being reminded of inconvenient truths.
Lemmy is an echo chamber you make yourself tho. There are no algorithms that push certain content to you. Obviously, if you only lurk on shit like hexbear, my condolences, but I don’t feel like Lemmy is an echo chamber, at least much less than reddit was.
An echo chamber is an echo chamber. Whether natural or artificial. Lemmy is extremely one sided. Dissenting opinions are not tolerated nor welcome (from a political standpoint). Perhaps less so than reddit as Lemmy user base is much smaller.
Echo chambers are not dependent on having an algorithmic feed. It just matters that the people you talk with and the information you consume, etc, filter out dissenting opinions from what you hold.
Lemmy is still very much an echo chamber simply by virtue of the people who tend to be here. But we can balance that with time spent on other platforms, IRL relationships, etc.
Bluesky can fuck right off as well. I tried it to see if it was any different than Twitter but I had to nope out after 10 minutes.
I’ve never understood the whole Twitter formula anyways. Scroll through endless ramblings of people I don’t care about? No thanks.
There are far better places to stay informed about certain topics or get in touch with people you know.
Not every social media format is for everyone, no need to be hostile about it. I just can’t bring myself to engage with TikTok and Reels and such, but other people really like them and why would that be a problem for me?
Well, I do believe twitter makes people less intelligent^* which lead to Americans electing Trump (twice even), which eventually impacts me somewhere down the line.
^* Because the focus on short sentence and the engagement algorithms favours highly polarised angry one liners that trigger primal emotion and is a successful assassination of any intelligent discourse.
And I say that having seen the progressive brain rot of my parents after they retired and started doomscrolling on twitter and being bombarded by more and more extreme messages, until it became a constant stream that can be summarised roughly by “brown people = bad”.
What about his comment is hostile?
These parts:
Bluesky can fuck right off as well. I tried it to see if it was any different than Twitter but I had to nope out after 10 minutes.
I’ve never understood the whole Twitter formula anyways. Scroll through endless ramblings of people I don’t care about? No thanks.
There are far better places to stay informed about certain topics or get in touch with people you know.
Lol, Blusky fan boys are quite active today. I’m sure this millionnaire’s toy will be better than the previous one, good luck.
The way I look at it, I know it’s probably going to end up being shit in the end, but it’ll be a few years until that happens, and it will be fun in the meantime.
Just because you know I’ll have to leave at some point doesn’t mean that you don’t enjoy the party while it lasts
And then what? You’ll move to Truth social? Then Thread? And then to X2? Meanwhile there’s a decentralize alternative that gives back the control to users, you’re welcome to join.
I don’t think it’d have to be either or. People can join both or just one it doesn’t really matter, If it ends up being another dumpster fire then people will move off just like they did X.
Most people will go where most of the people are going and that’s blue sky not Mastodon.
I disagree. People that didn’t left twitter when Musk took over are like people who didn’t vote in the US election: enablers. In my opinion, if you accept to take part in the nazi shithole that X is, you are in the end validating it’s existence.
What are you disagreeing with exactly because I didn’t say anything about X.
I’m taking about Mastodon versus bluesky
Tech so loves to repeat the same loops, and IMO I think it’s on us the fediverse for really failing to communicate the value of instances as well as making them easy.
(Number of people that have told me they think mastadon sounds like a good idea, but they don’t know how to pick the right instance). I try and smack them and say "it’s just like e-mail, you and your friends don’t have to choose gmail, your friend can be on yahoo, and you still talk to eachother. Whcih makes sense when explained, but it seems like few hear that kind of comparison.
So… we have a new platform, to replace twitter… yay!.. should we take counts on how long before either enshittification begins, flooding of ads or changes to be unusable), or it sells out to another already established billionare that abuses the power of media control etc…
it’s on us the fediverse for really failing to communicate the value of instances as well as making them easy
A bunch of people came over to Mastodon when Elon bought Twitter, but they left because it was missing features. The big ones I saw were
- a lack of “trending” list - that means journalists and other people who want to know what’s happening right now didn’t have a way to find events
- no suggestions for follows. As a new user, how do people know what to follow?
- no suggested posts. Once I scroll through all the posts from the people I follow, the system doesn’t provide me with new posts.
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That’s lazy journalism. There’s a functional search bar as well as trending hashtags.
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There will never be suggestions by design, but there’s accounts like FediFollow and guides on how to get started with Mastodon. If you meet those people in the future, tell them to follow hashtags for topics they like, and encourage them to start using hashtags. They’ll find people that way.
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This is also by design: there’s no suggestions, because there’s no algorithm. You decide what goes on in your feed (boosting is another important part of that). If you’ve looked at everything, explore a new hashtag, follow more people, check the Local or Global feeds, or Satan forbid anyone actually take that as a sign to take a break and go touch grass.
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Also no quote tweets. And many people are used to algorithms now. I love Mastodon but I have to say Bluesky is more polished. Mastodon can be weird about threads and replies to posts. Sometimes I see a reply before I see the post, especially in the “lists” view. Chronological timeline is great but it has its own issues too. For example people living in different time zones will have their posts buried when everyone is asleep. The algorithm, for better or worse, shuffles things around which can work for you or against you. If you browse for 5 mins here and there, algorithm helps you see the most relevant posts in that widow. Having both chronological and algorthimic feeds would be so helpful to me in Mastodon. I know there a front end that does a “catch up” feature, but it’s a bit hacky
Honestly that’s the most poorly designed part of mastodon, replies aren’t arranged chronologically. You click on a comment you see a few replies to it then go back and scroll down you see some more replies but they are just tagged comments to the person they replied like it doesn’t make any sense at all
Honestly, mastodon uses a open protocol, so in my opinion having an algorithm feed is a missing feature of the client/frontend that is used to interact with mastodon rather than a mastodon backend issue.
