One of my biggest issues with the ads is that they’re mostly scams. I just get ads for shit I know isn’t real
My tipping point was YouTube serving the same one ad months on end to me.
I was fine with ads a decade ago. I tolerated them increasing the amount five-fold over the years. But that was borderline torture, and getting an adblock was the only working solution.
Omg the Temu ad bombardment made me pull my hair out
u/Dangerous-Pizza7054 from the article,
Seems like the user tracking “special promotion” overrides the premium. They don’t even say whether it’s expected or not. But my take away is that paying for premium may or may not show you ads, but you are definitely tracked and harvested for data. (Maybe even more so, since, well, you are more valuable to them.)
“With YouTube Premium, enjoy ad-free access, downloads, and background play on YouTube and YouTube Music.”
In Australia, if they reneg on this headline promise, doesn’t matter what’s in the fine print, this would be refundable under Australian Consumer Law (not a lawyer).
What bullshit, and how silly on their part, since it’s just so much more convenient to block ads instead of paying
Well yes, you didn’t get first ads. But what about second ads?
ublock is cheaper and actually works
So premium users put their data on a pedestal for Google? That’s fun
That’s generally; if you have an account, you are easier to track for them.
I got the same Sunday banner in the middle of the screen similar to where shorts show up. Never in my life have I watched or cared for American football. Clearly a waste of money for the advertising company since I just closed it by pressing the x same as shorts on desktop.
That has been my specific issue with paying for any Google product always. I understand when I am using a product for free that I am not necessarily the customer and that money has to be made off of me or the users more generally somehow. That’s “fine” (ish, not really, but that has more to do with issues of security than anything).
However when I pay for a product or service, I want to now be the customer and I want to be in control of my data and have the company cater to me. If, when paying for a Google service, there was some legally relevant things in place that insured I was no longer being tracked and used to generate revenue via third parties I would gladly pay. Probably more than they are charging now, but instead they want to have it both ways which is just not OK with me.
At least a subscription includes YouTube music? Isn’t that interesting and relevant.
That part of the support email almost made me puke of how fucking awful it was. “Why complain about ads when you get YouTube Music for free by paying us money”
I guess they are premium ads?
this but unironically
advertisers paid a premium
Ad companies have the new subscription tier of Premium Buster, so now you have to upgrade to Premium Buster Buster
I’d bet that channel “members” don’t get ads for that channel regardless of premium status.
IMO, Google made premium, almost nobody bought it. So they went after adblockers, hoping that people would get premium to get rid of the ads. People most just Adblock harder.
While this is happening, one exec is peering over the fence at twitch. Where they only way to get away from ads without a pretty good Adblock, is to subscribe to the individual creator.
So they make “memberships” to channels a thing.
Almost nobody buys that either. So they go… What if, even if someone is premium, we give them ads, unless they’re a channel member.
Genius.
Paying to block ads per creator/channel/whatever, is a special level of bullshit that twitch has always had.
The system is working as expected. The companies are trying to find the best way to extract the most value from you using their platform.
This is all conjecture right?
Indeed. I have absolutely no way of knowing anything for certain.
I’m just screaming into the void from this hellscape we call Earth.
People are buying memberships though?
Usually you see this for creators like vtubers.
I like them but I will never consider memberships. At best I will sub to an actual service like floatplane or nebula
If this goes live, I’m out. YT premium is my most expensive subscription, but I watch enough YouTube that I’m OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers. If I still get ads? Nah dawg. I’ll divy up that money amongst patreons or whatever, and install add blockers.
If your main reason for paying premium is for ad blocking, I’d suggest just cancelling it now and using ad blockers. If you want to support creators, I’d say that it’s better to cancel and subscribe to a few patreons - I’d pick some of the smaller creators you like, to spread some of that support around a bit.
If you use iOS devices for watching YouTube, look into side-loading uYou+, it’s basically an edited YouTube app that removes most of the ads. You can stream from your phone to the apple TV, too, also without ads.
Not sure what the android equivalent is, but someone else will know - hopefully they will share in the comments also.
You’re suggesting turning a $15 or so YouTube bill into a $50+ Patreon bill depending on what creators they watch
Reasonable advice, but I’d note that I pay for premium and patreon specifically because I can only afford patreon for a few creators. I’d rather pay everyone I watch. While YouTube isn’t perfect, I like the service enough that I don’t mind paying for it.
Yeah, of course - you should do what you think is best. I was thinking that if everyone cancels their YT Premium and signs up for a few Patreons, distributed as randomly as possible (which is why I said to go for the smaller creators) then overall creators would get more money, while we’d still be paying less. Everyone wins - except Google, but fuck Google!
Wait… You can sideload on ios? Since when?
not on US devices without jailbreaking, but I think you can on EU devices.
You can on any iOS device without jailbreaking. Look into AltStore or Sidestore. The caveat is that you can only sign 3 apps at a time, and must resign these apps every week - which is done over your WiFi to a PC running AltStore server.
If you have a $99/year Apple developer account, you can use AltStore to sign as many apps as you like, and you only need to resign once per year.
“Look what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power!” -Android users
I use it because it came with Play Music, now YouTube Music. I’ll just switch to Spotify if I see them.
I stopped using streaming platforms personally and just went back to pirating music. Personally I don’t want to support Spotify because they continue to support far-right ideology with their podcasts, but that’s a completely personal decision.
The second i see an ad in cancelling my subscription
whos gonna prosecute any of this shit now
What ads? (User without premium, but proper browser and adblocker)
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This is why I stopped paying them. Fuck them, you’re just an source of income to them.
I mean, yeah, what kind of relationship did you expect?
They’re not running youtube for the good of their heart
