The White House and Democratic members of Congress called Georgia Republican’s comparison a ‘compliment’
I think we can count on Biden’s campaign being stacked with young, media-savy people, like it was last time. A lot of his 2020 stuff was pretty well done, you could tell he had a pretty in-touch team that knew how to present him well. Literally all he has to do is not get in their way, and they can ride Dark Brandon memes into 2024.
That’s called leadership. You put the right people in the right places and you don’t get in their way.
Imagine thinking those were bad things! That’s close to 50% of the US voting population (and I’d like to pretend it was only them, but the rest of the world isnt necessarily better).
How the fuck did we get here? Actually scratch that, i know that humans are greedy, tribal animals who are driven by biological urges only sometimes obscured by higher level thought. The bigger question is how the fuck did we manage to make it as far as we have?
And the biggest question of all; how do we unfuck this thing?
Marj’s ex husband has been asking himself that same question for a long time.
Some things just won’t wash off, no matter how much you scrub.
it takes a good soaking in bleach and whiskey. bleach for the outside, whiskey for the inside.
Have the American people stop being lazy bastards, generally. Especially young people.
2020 was the highest turnout in a century. And it was still only 2/3 of eligible voters. 79,000,000 eligible voters just went “eh”.
The primaries were even worse than that. The 2022 midterms were the second highest turnout for midterms this millennium. With 52%…. Despite 69% of eligible voters being registered. A ton of people just stayed home instead of making our highest civil duty a priority.
I agree, but part of the problem is that people are tired of choosing between 2-3 old people candidates that dont have their best interests in mind. In the case of Biden and Trump, Biden is most definitely less of an asshole and way more qualified than the Trump, but he’s still going to do what’s best for corporations, not what’s best for the majority of the US population.
I vote myself, but at the same time I understand the apathy especially from the younger generations. They are presented with 2 people who are completely out of touch with them, and the issues they will face in their lifetimes. I don’t think that they are lazy, they just feel helpless and like their choice doesn’t matter or make a difference.
I don’t know how we fix this issue, as it is a problem with the voting system itself. The best we can do is just vote and pick the lesser of two evils. So I also encourage others to do the same, but I don’t look down on anyone for not voting.
So vote in the primaries…
The Dem primaries had like 10 people this last go round. From 38 to 78.
Bernie was the front runner and people were counting Biden out until South Carolina when nobody showed up for Bernie.
Voting is not a once every 4 year thing. There are elections at the local level all. The. Fucking. Time. And those are even more important. And they have even less turnout than the big ones. I have had 8 elections since 2020 in my local area. I vote in every single one of them.
Who do you think rise through the ranks through parties and become prominent? People who get elected at lower levels. They have track records.
There is absolutely zero excuse for not voting. I will look down on anyone that doesn’t vote but bitches about the system. They simply do not care. They say they do but won’t do the one damn thing to actually change anything. Everything starts at the local level.
I vote myself, but at the same time I understand the apathy especially from the younger generations.
You came out swinging with a lot of pent up frustration, dude. The other commenter says they do vote. I grant you they didn’t mention the primary, but I have no reason to believe they don’t vote in the primary, too.
So I also encourage others to do the same, but I don’t look down on anyone for not voting.
I feel like this is where you meant to put your energy, since you said you DO look down on people who don’t vote but do complain. But we need both kinds of people in the world. Some people respond better to patience, others to a kick in the butt. You’re both doing it right as long as you’re both trying to convince people to vote.
There are elections at the local level all. The. Fucking. Time. And those are even more important. And they have even less turnout than the big ones.
That drives me crazy. People don’t think how their own city or county is run matters! Even on the “both parties are the same” bullshit level, it makes no sense.
Totally agree with the local elections! When i was young, i used to skip these elections, but i vote in every single one of them now. Hell, im also the nerd who spends free time attending council meetings & stuff to voice my opinions!
It really does make a difference voting in these local elections! Even things you might not see as useful (school board was always that way for me) have significant ramifications on day to day life. Ive seen it first hand.
With that said, i have a bone to pick regarding the presidential primaries. Sure there are 10 candidates for (some) voters, but many voters get effectively excluded from the process entirely. My state is fairly late in the primary process and almost never actually gets a choice. People always say “just vote in the primaries if you dont want the geriatric moderate”, but that is all that is left on the ballot. The last presidential primary for example, while biden hadnt technically won the primary yet, he was the only name on the ballot as all the other candidates had dropped out. Real fucking awesome selection i had… Id like to be enlightened where my choice was. From my perspective, it looks like it was decided before i even got the chance to vote. its a super fucked up system that im very bitter about.
people are tired of choosing between 2-3 old people
You’re NEVER going to get a good option. You vote for the least-worse. Always – lather, rinse, repeat.
I’m not sure how this is confusing. Show up at the polling station, with some idea of each loser’s plan, and pick the one who can pull off the most of a decent plan – or, said a different way, whoever will suck the least.
You’re NEVER going to get a good option. You vote for the least-worse. Always – lather, rinse, repeat.
That is the entire problem and telling people “Thats just the way it is, deal with it” is not going to solve it. Our “democratic” system is completely broken, we are given the illusion of choice when in reality all candidates are preselected and paraded in front of the public as if they have our best interests at heart, when in reality they all have the same mandate from their corporate overlords. The US is a corporatocracy masquerading as a democracy, we as ordinary citizens have no real say in the matter. That needs to change, full stop!
That needs to change, full stop!
America’s system of voting “first past the post” ensures that one of the top two candidates will win. It pretty much guarantees a two-party system will win.
So, the strategy would be:
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- Try to get an alternative voting system like “Ranked Choice Voting” in place. This has been done successfully in Maine and Alaska, I think. We need more of it. [Yes, I know Ranked Choice is not perfect, but it’s definitely better than we have.]
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- Until then, your best vote (mathematically) is to vote for one of the top two candidates that is closest to what you want. Yes, you’ll have to hold your nose a few times to vote for the “least worst” of the two, but honestly, it’s better than the alternative, of having the “worst worst” of the two.
Hope this helps.
You don’t even have to oppose the two party system to support ranked choice. I like ranked choice, especially for state reps/senators, and I’m very pro two-party system.
I know it opens the door to other parties I don’t necessarily want to exist, but it’s just a good idea full stop.
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It’s not a broken system when the most popular person wins. No one was preselected.
A majority of people think Biden is in their best interest.
If you want things to change, you have to accept that it’s rarely going to be a sudden, profound moment. It’s small steps adding up over time. If people aren’t willing to take the small steps, just because they’re not big steps, then we’ll all soon find ourselves pulled backwards through our own apathy.
Biden was literally my favorite in the primaries. I got my first pick as President.
Frankly I think if people wanted some wacky, off the wall, Williamson-style candidate, they’re too dumb to try to reason with so their votes really just should be assumed not to happen
Definitely times I wish we were more like Australia where I’m pretty certain voting is legally required.
Yeah election day is a holiday here, and voting is open for weeks in advance leading up to it just in case people can’t find the time.
Not to mention the fact that we have preferential voting, so people are better off putting more independent/smaller parties first so they have a better chance of getting seats
Also the sausage sizzle
When I first heard about democracy sausages I thought it was a way to make fun of uncultured Americans and our bland bologna style hot dogs.
I’m so jealous that you get sausages when you vote! So much better than a sticker!!
Shit I wish. Though most Americans are lazy enough they would just fill in random bubbles to fulfill the requirement.
The bigger question is how the fuck did we manage to make it as far as we have?
That’s not really a big question.
We made it this far because unlike what conservatives think, most people dissagree with them.
How the fuck did we get here?
Complete failure of education system?
Deliberate sabotage of the education system by the Republicans.
No child were left behind.
Powerless hate finding powerful allies
I cannot imagine how anyone could think being compared to FDR would be a black spot for a progressive. I wish he’d be at least one Judicial Procedures Reform Bill closer to FDR.
I cannot imagine how anyone could think
MTG doesn’t do much thinking at all.
What makes you think progressives were the target audience for her speech? The kind of person who likes fdr was almost certainly going to be voting blue regardless, and nothing she said would realistically change it, so why bother trying?
WHOOSH. Or, the point is she is so dumb she accidentally makes good arguments for her opponents.
Right? Those would only be good things if the right people benefited from them and everyone else (all the people in the outgroups who might as well not be thought of as people) is cut off from them.
From the figures I found, Trump increased the debt by $6.7 trillion while Biden increased it by $2.5 trillion (over three of his four years). Note that the first year of spending for any president is controlled by the last president, so 2020 spending was Trump’s, but also 2016 was Obama’s.
Looking at just proposed programs, Biden’s student loan plan would have cost 0.4 trillion, or $400 billion. Meanwhile, Trump’s ‘tax repatriation holiday’ (companies illegally hiding money overseas to avoid taxes, make one year where you don’t get taxes for bringing the money back to USA) cost taxpayers $465 billion.
Pepperidge Farm remembers the last couple of years of the Clinton administration when we had an actual budget surplus and all the talk was of what to do with this surplus. But then the “fiscal conservatives” said “Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter”.
And they blamed Obama for being spendy (because even $1 to a poor person is wasteful) while GWB racked up the biggest budget in history many times.
Deficits don’t matter, but a surplus is still dope AF. It shouldn’t come from cutting services like we did in the 90s tho.
I do agree it’s insane that the GOP went from “deficits don’t matter” when they control the Presidency to “shut down the gov over the debt ceiling” when they don’t tho.
Deficits only don’t matter when Republicans are in the White House.
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Well, when the house is under control of the same party as the white house, they normally just start with the president’s budget outline and cut and add stuff. But that didn’t happen with Trump, so you have to go back to 09-10 for the last time the president’s budget wasn’t dead on arrival.
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COVID, which happened under Trumps administration, which throws any sort of comparisons out the window. Everyone, democrats and republicans alike, were crying for government handouts in the form of free payments, in order to survive. It was a (hopefully) once in a lifetime unprecedented situation that destroyed most budgets around the world.
Also neither Trump nor Biden are responsible for the budget surplus/deficit.
man I wish Biden was a strong advocate for even half of those things lol
Neanderthal DNA. Lots of it.
I have a lot of Neanderthal DNA and I resent this
Try relax and no hit with club even if mad.
Neanderthals were better tool-makers, with bigger brains, bigger bodies, and stronger.
But they bred with the dumb, sexy Sapiens, and here we are.
Same, bro
Oh good lord, yes.
It’s just ridiculous that she talks about how “awful” those things are.
I know, they sound horrible, right? Imagine tax dollars going back into the communities that pay them. God what kind of awful country would do such a thing?
Imagine services that actually help people and not purely driven by profits.
Republicans are so far gone that they forgot what it’s like to actually help American citizens
I mean if you like those things, I presume there’s a roughly 0% chance you were the target audience anyway.
Link to the video. Sorry it’s Twitter.
https://twitter.com/joebiden/status/1681424737384435713?s=46&t=1RS4vxJ7QYuOgD4JTloPEA
Don’t apologize, use Nitter: https://nitter.net/joebiden/status/1681424737384435713?s=46&t=1RS4vxJ7QYuOgD4JTloPEA
The comments on that thread are insane. I’m not really sure what I expected but Jesus. They don’t even respond to anything in the video, they just repeat Hunter Biden/COVID conspiracies
Twitter is a cesspool.
Obligatory - you should try using mastodon.
But really, you should. People aren’t shitty there.
Of course the top response has a bored ape avatar lol
The way MTG says “urban” brings to mind John Mulaney’s bit about how the factual word “jews” is the same as the derogatory word “jews,” so it just depends on the inflection.
I didn’t watch the video but I already know ‘urban’ is code for ‘black people’
Ayep. I wouldn’t have given the word a second thought, if she hadn’t inflected it so hard that it pretty much has a hard “R” at the end.
Oh to be a fly on the wall when she first saw this. She must be tearing that shitty dye job out of her head by the roots lol
And then she lists things the Republicans have done to dig our debt deeper…
this is gold
I wish there were someone who wasn’t evil or whose only selling point was they aren’t bad. Is having inspiring canidates really too much to ask for?
The most pressing crisis to all of humanity is the climate and somehow Biden got through congress an estimated $1.3 trillion climate bill. I’m not sure a Bernie could’ve pulled that off.
You don’t have to love or even like him, but he has selling points other than not being Trump.
Literally in a thread talking about the good things Biden has done
I mean, kinda, yeah. You saw what happened to Sanders.
But so long as the red team is in full literal Nazi mode, we really shouldn’t bitch too much about the not-evil options. We don’t want to sentence the US with another Trump because the alternative is uninspiring.
It’s a shitty system, but let’s work with that we got.
There’s nothing wrong with a boring, uninspiring president. Obama had a ton of charisma but Biden’s presidency is honestly a lot better. Sure, the country sucks right now, but at least Biden is trying to make it better, after the last guy did so much to try and destroy everything our nation is built on. It’s going to take a long time and a lot of hard work to crawl out of this hole the GOP has dug us into. I think there are people who could have done better than Biden, but in all honesty he’s probably the best president we’ve had in my lifetime. I give him a B+.
I’ve been eligible to vote since 2001 and I can say that Biden has been the vote that I’ve been the most okay with. He’s accomplished a fair bit despite the political situation. Maybe it would be more ideal if he were younger, but this is how it is now and I think he’s doing well, all things considered.
It drives me nuts how so many people just claim FDR was any kind of socialist. FDR was the best capitalist the system ever made, he was responsible for saving capitalism in America and making it a bulwark against the waves of facsim and socialism that was sweeping the world.
This is delicious
Honestly, does he even need campaigning? Like since when did you read a political ad or billboard and was like “hmm my mind has officially changed”. Most of people’s mind has already been made up. He could really sit there and not do anything and end up winning.
Edit: yeah. We need every fighting chance we get. Release the dark brandon memes.
After 2016, I would not be so complacent. Never underestimate the stupidity and goldfish-like memory of the average American.
When I heard Trump won the Republican nomination in 2016 I literally laughed out loud thinking there is absolutely no way, 0% chance, better odds that the sun will explode, this country is pretty stupid but not THAT stupid. And sure enough, I was wrong. That was when I realized that the GOP is very, very good at manipulating stupid people.
The thing you didn’t consider there is that there’s like 100% chance the sun will explode. Probably not any time soon, but eventually
Our sun is not massive enough to go nova. It will expand into a red giant and then contract into a white dwarf.
I need my coffee to process this lol
Well fuck
And here I was, groaning when Hilary won the primary, because I knew Trump had a good chance against her. People thought I was over reacting, but literally anyone would have been a better opponent to Trump.
I’m fairly certain that part of the Cambridge Analytica data manipulation scandal thing was that they managed to throw an election by targeting users on the fence and susceptible to the “I don’t need to vote” or the “voting doesn’t matter” type comments and memes.
They targeted their client’s opposition’s voters with these, caused a really low turnout of voters in that demographic, allowing their client to win.Don’t get sucked into these things.
Vote how you want, even if it’s just the uninspiring, boring, lesser evil, whatever.You can’t underestimate decades of getting people to subconsciously hate Hillary Clinton and what that does to voters. Many hated her. Few actually had a reason when asked
There’s a reason the GOP goes so hard at AOC in 2020+. They see her as a real threat to the presidency in 2040+ and they want decades of demonization in the bank
@Saneless @RandallFlagg The Conservatives in #Canada do the same repetitive attacks on #Trudeau and are having some success- many cite a hate for Trudeau but when asked why they have literally no reason- unfortunate so many want to be told what to think rather then vetting information- critical thinking needs to be a value not a nuisance.
@Sbhinclusion @Saneless @RandallFlagg The hate is that their assumptions and privileges are being called out. That these no longer protect and isolate them from the world’s problems. They hate that they must make hard decisions that effect themselves and the ones they love. They hate that they are vulnerable. It’s new and it’s ugly and they consider it unfair. Saying F*ck has never solved a problem
@Sbhinclusion @Saneless @RandallFlagg When asked why they hate Trudeau, people often site absolute lies that are repeated continuously by Conservatives and happily repeated by mainstream media.
Yeah that’s definitely not unique to Canada unfortunately
Even in local politics we have idiots here who are blaming “out of state corporate interests” for wanting to vote yes for a bill
MF the only reason you’re parroting that shit is because of the corporate interests who bribe the politicians who tell you want to think
Lmao be nice if literally any of that was fucking true.
