• Mwa@lemm.eeEnglish
    7·
    3 days ago

    Ironically Roblox doesn’t work on Linux(On Wine at least not sober).

    • AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world
      16·
      4 days ago

      I do some e-wasting for a number of big companies and have piles of old laptops. I’ve taken to giving the laptops to people that need computers and the ones with Linux don’t taken. I literally can’t give away Linux computers. They can buy their own windows licenses.

    • Luffy879@lemmy.ml
      3·
      4 days ago

      Yep, people are so stubborn they would rather risk their entire online presence than learn that penguin hacker thingy with the white text. Also the Walter is wet

  • namarupa@lemmy.world
    5·
    3 days ago

    Distro-hopped a lot till I landed on Manjaro with XFCE desktop environment. Been daily driving it for about a month now without any complaints. There is an option to install with NVIDIA drivers as well.

  • azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    19·
    4 days ago

    Like if people actually cared that a Windows version goes EoL. That literally means nothing to most people and typical PC user won’t even notice anything until something will functionally break, which will take YEARS after it’s EoL.

      • azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        3 days ago

        Sure, Linux has some selling points and it’s a good moment for it to try and gain new users, but I’m tired of people acting like it’s the YOTLD because of what Microsoft is doing to Windows. It’s just delusional

  • PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de
    242·
    4 days ago
    • Plasma is more similar to Windows
    • Plasma is more customizable
    • Plasma is just as beginner-friendly
    • Plasma has more features
    • Plasma is more actively developed
    • Plasma looks better

    Don’t get me wrong, Cinnamon is fine, but it gets recommended religiously to beginners for some reason. It just doesn’t make sense, so I will keep repeating this, not least to keep alive the ancient linux tradition of Desktop wars.

    Still, any Windows to Linux transition is a step forward and I support this, upvoted.

    • Karu 🐲@lemmy.ml
      71·
      4 days ago

      As someone who has extensively used both Cinnamon and Plasma: I find Plasma a lot less polished, by a huge margin. Not only do settings have unusual defaults and are located in places you wouldn’t expect, it also often has desktop-breaking bugs out of nowhere even in stable versions, and this has only gotten worse with Wayland. Even as someone who has been using Arch for years now, I still struggle with getting Plasma to not shit itself every once in a while.

      Cinnamon on the other hand does have a lot less features out of the box, but the few things it does, it does them well, and every setting is where a sane person would search for them.

      I would not recommend Plasma to a Linux beginner at all. It’s the kind of unpolished mess that would make anyone who doesn’t care enough about computers to just give up and go back to Windows.

      • PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        2·
        4 days ago

        Hm thanks for sharing your experience, it’s very different from mine though. Have you used Plasma recently (Version 6+) ? And have you used it on a distro where it came pre-packaged? In my (limited) experience any DE installed on Arch is janky out of the box.

        • Karu 🐲@lemmy.mlEnglish
          4·
          4 days ago

          I am running Plasma 6.2.1 as we speak. Admittedly, yes, using Arch has certainly made it less stable. But more often than not, when I search the web for some strange behavior/bug/limitation in my desktop, I often find dozens of threads with lots of people reporting the same misbehavior or limitation from all over the distro space, and I have come to the conclussion that it’s not entirely Arch’s fault at that point.

          Have you done literally any customization to panels? I swear that shit keeps crashing whenever I do so much as unpinning a simple app launcher plasmoid, and even if it didn’t crash, it still takes patience to navigate through all the menus. They completely overhauled the way panel settings look and behave, and I still find the experience annoying as hell. In contrast, customizing panels is pretty straightforward in Cinnamon, and works as expected. It merely doesn’t look as good.

          I don’t hate Plasma, or else I would have switched to another DE by now, but this is mostly because I have learned to tame it, and that took a lot of effort that no beginner should have to go through. Cinnamon is like, the polar opposite of that, which is why I’m okay with it being religiously recommended to beginners.

          KDE’s priorities are just kinda weird. I have the similar issues with Krita, an otherwise excellent drawing program.

    • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
      41·
      4 days ago
      • Plasma is more resource intensive, and this meme is specifically about machines that are 7-10 years out of date
    • Mwa@lemm.eeEnglish
      11·
      3 days ago
      • Plasma is wayy more buggy in cinnamon (Alteast my experience)
  • Zink@programming.dev
    28·
    5 days ago

    Oh is this an excuse to hop on the Mint praise train? Don’t mind if I do!

    For me it was smoother than windows to install, it runs much better moment to moment (it’s like the people that made it were worried about making nice software rather than the business goals being pushed by their managers), and most importantly the fact that it is the “beginner” distro doesn’t compromise its capabilities. I am in the terminal all day every day and I use the machine to work on software for embedded Linux systems.

    • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world
      10·
      5 days ago

      Mint was so easy to install. I’m pretty new to Linux. Not afraid of having to do things in the terminal, but I don’t really know many commands yet. So, I appreciate the graphical managers for updates and drivers. You can definitely tell they really worked to make a polished OS. And I really like Cinnamon. It’s a very clean looking DE that has been super easy to transition to from Windows.

      Unlike Kubuntu, I didn’t have to do any tricks or install anything from github to get stuff from my Steam library to work, everything just worked. And Kubuntu (or perhaps just Wayland) would crash upon waking my PC from sleep and wouldn’t recover.

  • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
    15·
    4 days ago

    Remember when Windows XP reached EoL the first time in 2009 and people abandoned it? Yeah, me neither, but I remember Microsoft groaning and extending some support for a few more years, until the final EoL in 2014. I expect the same to happen to 10.

  • kr0n@lemmy.ml
    3·
    3 days ago

    People will keep using Windows 10 even if Microsoft will not fix any vulnerability

  • sunbytes@lemmy.world
    3·
    3 days ago

    Closer to the EoL time, someone is going to release a version of Linux that is basically windows, with a super locked down interface etc to make it so newbies can install and use with zero CLI or setup.

    Or at least some serious consumer-grade onboarding.

    Presumably it will have reduced functionality to make it as stable as humanly possible too.

    And they’ll probably become one of the larger distributions until people get the confidence to “upgrade” to a more complex one.

    • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
      3·
      3 days ago

      If they can get a version that just runs all Windows programs (not just games) out of the box without user modification then great. I’d consider that to be an actual Windows replacement.

      If all you’re running is a browser and some light office suite use then great, Linux can do that now. Otherwise what people saying “just switch to Linux” are really saying is “stop using your PC”.

        • john117@lemmy.jmsquared.net
          1·
          4 hours ago

          eh, im lazy. true that there is nothing special about steam os, but I like the Linux experience they released, so I don’t mind waiting

      • sunbytes@lemmy.world
        2·
        3 days ago

        Didn’t know that was a thing outside of steam deck.

        But yeah I’m waiting until the last moment because it’s likely that’s when the best contender will appear.

        • john117@lemmy.jmsquared.net
          1·
          3 days ago

          I think they’re working on it, I could have sworn they said they were but a quick Google search shows nothing for me…

          I saw someone posted bazzite as an alternative to steam os, but I’d just rather wait for whatever valve puts out at this point. I trust them to make it happen a little bit too much lol

  • Honytawk@lemmy.zipEnglish
    13·
    4 days ago

    The average user cares less about their OS being EoL, than that they have to learn a whole new OS that works “completely” different to what they are used to.

    • dingdong@lemm.eeEnglish
      13·
      4 days ago

      This just objectively isn’t true. The XP EOL date actually forced users hands. There WAS refresh cycle in 2014, the only reason it didn’t turn in to the uprising it is seemingly turned into, is because Microsoft kinda got lucky, and this refresh cycle purged Pentim 4-s and Celeron M-s and Pentium D-s, and old Athlons, all of which were ewaste from new.

  • Killer57@lemmy.ca
    15·
    3 days ago

    The Steam Deck and it’s desktop mode are why I decided to try jumping head first into a single boot of Bazzite on my main computer, it’s basically like using a Steam deck, just across four monitors, a year in and I haven’t looked back.