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No, you misunderstood. You see, the crisis lasts your entire generation
Exactly. It isn’t a “once in a generation crisis” it’s a “one generation” crisis. OP must have skimmed over their orientation papers and misread.
Oh it’s certainly not one generation
You’re expecting there to be more generations in the future?
Well I’m here
Those darn millennials!
Such rascals.We were born during the savings and loan crisis too. Just after the gas crisis and stagflation of the 70s.
Muh’fuckin’ avocado toast smh
it’s all the same crisis baybay! the entire time throughout all of history
<astronaut meme>
Wait, it’s all a crisis?
Always has been.
Well… you keep on giving the most rabidly ignorant, recklessly greedy bigoted zealots the keys to the kingdom every 4-to-8 years, what did you expect?
Then when Democrats can’t fix everything quickly while under constant zealot attack and sabotage, you reward the saboteurs with the keys to the goddamned kingdom again. All while you proudly proclaim that you’ve got it all figured out, because you read a blog post or tweet somewhere:
bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe WhY bOtHeR vOTiNg?When Democeats refuse to fix it because they want to “play by the rules” you mean.
Or more recently, directly voted with the Republicans when the Republicans lacked a few votes.
This is why I’ve become an accelerationist, pissing off massive swaths of Lemmy tankies and libs. We likely need these consequences so people make more active, informed decisions in the future. I’m old enough now that I see people making the same mistakes over and over and over again.
Unfortunately, we’re talking generations here before we see positive results. We didn’t really condemn terrible leaders of the past until they were swept deep into the margins of history.
This is actually the sentiment that I see a lot of Trump supporters use to support him in real life. They don’t like him. But they’re fed up with every other politician. They’re unwavering when he’s burning things down because that’s what they want him to do
When they said “recklessly greedy bigoted zealots”, did you honestly think they weren’t talking about conservatives?
That’s where you messed up. The current administration of chaos is extremely efficient at putting the horrors outside of people’s direct vision. Comparatively, very few people are going to arrive home to find their neighbor on fire and feel compelled to act.
Better social safety nets and better education can put people in stable enough circumstances they can become socially aware of problems beyond themselves. By that point they don’t even need to be pushed into it. And Democrats - not all of them but plenty of them - have championed those policies. But they’ve been thoroughly crushed now by “both sides” mentality because they don’t have a violent expulsion reaction to being crushed by accelerationism.
That’s where you messed up.
fails to convince me I “messed up” on anything in any possible way, stance unchanged.
You talked about needing consequences so that people make more informed decisions. I was trying to illustrate to you how the current path of consequences is built to dismantle informed decisions.
There are millions of Americans being asked “Regretting your choices yet???” and answering “wdym? Everything is fine. You read too much of the news.”
So if your motivation for accelerationism is spite and anger, nothing to criticize. But if you’re in favor of the harm caused because you think it will lead to people changing their minds anytime soon, you are grossly misreading the current path.
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Let’s not fight, we can have both!
World class conciliator
I was just thinking about this today when I was out for a run.
It’s similar to how we keep getting record temperatures year on year.
I think something isn’t working as intended
Nobody born after 1985 has ever experienced ‘average temperatures’.
This was a news article from 2015. Since then nearly every year has set a record for being the warmest ever recorded.
We’ve had a decade of pumping more money into the money machine while our ecology falls apart around us.
Side rant: I fucking hate the phrase “unseasonably warm/cold”.
It gives the impression of a one off aberration that will go back to normal. We haven’t had a normal season in decades, maybe we should just admit we broke the seasons instead of tiptoeing around it.
its snowing in my part of canada, it snowed last night, it snowed 2 days last week. time of posting, its april
my boss said “we’re kidding ourselves if we think this isnt normal”
he’s been right on that for the last 2 decades almost
Meanwhile oil demand keeps growing. That’s what gets me.
I was born in 1985. Not a coincidence. I’m trying to tone it down, but it just. won’t. stop.
The system isn’t broken; it’s working exactly as intended.
I dont mean to turn this into one of those arguments where fight over whether they are a millienial or gen-xer… But I do recall recentley seeing someone in that age range, posting a message
“Born just in time to see the end of the fuck around days, and entered adulthood just in time to live the rest of my life in the find out time”
The boom bust cycle is a feature of how we do capitalism in the US. It is related to an unsustainable growth mindset.
Weak men created hard times. Thanks, boomers.
There’s no war but the class war, everything else is propaganda to distract us from the real criminals.
True, but most of the oppressors are boomers.
It’s just that easy to accept the cycle, eh?
The difference now is that this one was completely preventable. Not that it makes it any better.
So was the one in 2008…
That one was more complex. Lehman brothers didn’t publicly tell everybody that they were going to do a bad thing, then proceed to do the bad thing despite everyone telling them it’s a very bad idea, and then everything turns into shit just like everyone had predicted.
True, but then it also could’ve been mitigated better after shit hit the fan.
Also, if we had imprisoned everyone involved and seized all their assets Donald Trump probably doesn’t win in 2016
Yeah I think you’re right, a lot of average people wouldn’t be as anti establishment and easily pursuaded by demogoges if they’d taken care of the general population after 2008 instead of the banks…
i’d chime in with a “havent you people ever heard of class consciousness”
its much better to face these kinds of things with a sense of poise and rationality.
Limits to planetary growth
I don’t remember a once-in-a-generation economic crisis in 2002… I remember the dotcom bust and my dad watching his retirement evaporate in 2000…
They’re probably referring to this:
Hey… if it follows number pattern… the next stage in the crisis should be about ten years away… so that’s cool right?
Maybe “the 2038 problem” will be the new Y2K?!
The 2038 problem is going to be +3C global warming, ensuing wet bulb temperatures and mass starvation due to breadbasket failures. (debbie downer sound)
🎶UH OH UH OH, EVACUATE THE TRADE FLOOR UH OH UH OH IT’S INFECTED BY THE CLOWN UH OH UH OH STOP THESE TARIFFS ARE KILLING ME HEY MR ORANGE MAN FUCK OFF AND DIE🎵
In my head set to https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=FrGiD2yompY
Also fuck the stock market anyway
2012 (kinda continuation of 2008) is missing
